The Thinking Process

[Blaec]

I have been studying a lot on chaos magick and have begun refining my own 'technique'. However the method of the 'thinking process' seems to be different among members. The general idea is to focus the intent of the sigil during its charge. Some seem to disagree with this, that its intent can be thought of after and be charged more than once.

For me this is causing problems because I spend to much time thinking about what I'm supposed to think and not treating the practice as a natural one. I believe that there must be a 'best' or 'right' method for this as it is the only way our message is carried out to the universe; "If you were to send a message over a long distance would it be FM or AM radio?"

[Gazeeboh]

FM.

"The tao that can be named is not the Tao."

You found your problem. Thinking. Just stop it. Feel this instead. Knowing.

You got your sigil, that is your wish.
You charge it, work that wish to a boiling point and then throw the pot out the window and burn your house down.
Forget it, you win, you forgot you won.

"Did I make a wish for whatever? I don't remember, thats how much I don't care anymore."
"I'm going to go play Halo and eat doritos now."

[dragonus18]

doing this **** whilst stoned can also do a great deal dramatically to not remembering and later thinking about it

[sarahgl2286]

Salvia is a decent option, clears out pretty quick and legal in most states. Can be found online, or in any 'head shops', places that would sell water pipes.

[Rosalyn]

I have no idea why you need to use drugs unless you are a shaman, you have to take into account your weight, sensitivity among other factors. It is illegal in most countries. I can see where you would not remember.

Salvia.net - Legality (http://www.salvia.net/en/legality.htm)

[Gazeeboh]

Don't use Salvia for sigils! Talk about over kill. Salvia is used for Shamanic operations, loosing this world and going into another, talking to the spirits on their turf. Plus I remember all the trips, it's hard to forget that kind of thing.

Not for some wish squiggle.

Pot maybe, but you have to know yourself well enough while under its influence.

I would suggest starting sober until you learn yourself well enough to understand how the drug affects you and how to operate under the new parameters it will undoubtedly introuduce.

[sarahgl2286]

I use what works. I am in new mexico so its legal here. Seem to recall more US states being legal than that. Salvia for me due to its slightly disorienting affect, I put more effort into a single minded focus. Anything can be used for a tool. If it works, run with it. If it doesnt, you found another way not to accomplish something.

I found that the lowest concentration you can buy is relatively pleasant. I believe it is 10x? Most people I talked with said it did nothing for them.

[Odin]

sorry people we have to stop talking about the need for the use of drugs here

some might use it in there practice but is not suggested that it be done first of all for the legality and second for the fact that there are minors on the site and the Owner of
the site can be held libel thanks