Psi-Vampirism

[Rezenic]

I'm hesitant in posting this because of what happened to me. As psionic vampires require energy to feed and live, they have an ability to take energy from other sources such as people and in some cases animal or other astral beings. This is not just a skill that they can do. It is a skill that can be learned by anyone who become affluent in energy manipulation. The reason I hesitate to write about it is because of the addiction to it that I fell to. There is barely anything better than the feeling of receiving a burst of fresh energy from a random group of people that you see somewhere. It becomes addictive, and therefore eventually you start feeling that you need that energy even-though your body does not require it.

The methods are simple once you have good control over energy. One method is the tendril method. You extend astral wires to the target, and imagine their energy flowing into you from the wires. The second method is harder, but quicker in the long run. I call it scraping because you simply imagine a chunk of their energy coming to you. Though taking too much with either method is dangerous to the target. A small amount won't hurt them at all. When I used the ability I usually found groups because energy is always given off stronger among groups than individuals.

Again as a warning to the wise, do not do this if you don't need to. The only things that I would use it for now is emergency situations where I desperately need the extra energy in order to finish something that I am dealing with.

[ninfan]

If i am not mistaken energy can also be absorbed from the environment, trees & even through water, almost anything that is not man made. A friend of mine told me once to try this, pour some water in a bowl, dip your fingers in it & try to feel that you are absorbing energy from it

[Rezenic]

If i am not mistaken energy can also be absorbed from the environment, trees & even through water, almost anything that is not man made. A friend of mine told me once to try this, pour some water in a bowl, dip your fingers in it & try to feel that you are absorbing energy from it

It's true, but it is much easier and more easily accessible to gather it off of people's auras.

[Ninlil]

I've never been able to do this despite many, many exercises like these that have worked well for others.

I think I am actually incapable of it now after never succeeding.

I was interested in trying it to learn how it works because it's a powerful empathy tool. I know a lot of psivamps/energy manipulators, and only with them moving my energy (no help from me I guess lol) I was able to feel how this works, so I know I'm not doing it. ): Sadface!

And because of people who may flame or be mean, I obviously would not use this on unwilling people! I was curious about the ability in terms of the energy connection.

[Ninlil]

Lady, we are talking about two completely different things.

[VIRAL]

I am more of a simbiote, feeding off other's energy and giving off my own energy for them. The 2 exes I was closest to felt this but said it made them feel crazy. Maybe that's why they are exes.

[idnami]

I have done some experimenting along these lines, like "harvesting" the energy thrown off at midnight on new year's for example since that is a lot like a big cone of power rolling across the world getting bigger as it heads west. However I found that not everything I absorbed was good for me. I think human energy is a little too specific sometimes. Plant and elemental energies are much more stable. Tapping random auras has come to feel a bit dirty to me, you never know what you might catch.

[Rezenic]

I have done some experimenting along these lines, like "harvesting" the energy thrown off at midnight on new year's for example since that is a lot like a big cone of power rolling across the world getting bigger as it heads west. However I found that not everything I absorbed was good for me. I think human energy is a little too specific sometimes. Plant and elemental energies are much more stable. Tapping random auras has come to feel a bit dirty to me, you never know what you might catch.

Another good source is tapping into circle energies. If you or other perform any ritual of any type, the energy that the circle lets off after it's broken or closes is pure and powerful.

[Wolves from the Fog]

I dont feed off energy, even though I have before in my past and seen tragity...I filter it through shifting.

As a practicing Therian, my energy is similar to that of a vampire, except where my body loses alot more energy during shifts then a vampire does throughout his or her day, (which could use some room for skepticism, and ofcourse, I dont mean that in an offensive way AT ALL, just so everyone here knows), it is also reproduced in a similar fashion DURING shifts, to sustain natural balance IN my energy, both physical and spiritual.

So in short, instead of having to feed or filter energy from outside sources, manually, such as from humans, animals, or other animates, etc. to sustain my own energy, like I know I can, and do, or atleast...have in the past, the energy from outside sources sustains mine naturally, instead of by force or manipulation.

[SilverMoon]

For psi Vamps, there are four main types of energy. some feed from all, others from one or two.
Pranic energy (lifeforce energy)
Emotion energy ( that given off by emotions)
Tantric energy ( sevual energy)
Elemental energy (energy from the elements)

I'm a psi vamp, and I feed from all four. usualy whatever I have best acess to. I like groups of people, as mentioned they give off stronger amounts than just a single person. I don't get out much, so nature is my general feeding source. I feed from people, generaly during church. yeah, lol feeding on the christians.

[One and Only...]

A few things I've noticed in my vamping experiences.

One is that you can be selective about the energy on which you are feeding. I don't think there is really such a thing as "positive" or "negative" energy, but you can choose to take energy which the target is improperly processing or is processing well. While feeding off the latter will harm them, feeding off the former may strengthen them.

Another is that Tai Chi/Qigong practices really improve one's sensitivity to energy. Although Tai Chi masters may not know vampirism nor even protect themselves well against it, they are veterable wellsprings of energy and can easily channel it through the natural world. Although feeding off of humans or animals is not the same, the learning process does somewhat translate.

Now a question: has anyone tried vamping off of spirits/demons/etc? What was the success?

[Whore_of_the_black_abyss]

I'm very much drawn to vampyrism, and I have also found that without trying, I pick up and draw energy from people. It has never been a conscious thing for me, and I haven't yet consciously attempted to draw energy from another human being. I do draw energy from nature quite often.

I often found however, that I seem to draw upon everyone's negative energy when I am in large crowds. The next day or two, I will be depressed and/or angry and upset. I'm not sure why this is, and I'm not sure if this is ever experienced through psi vampyrism.

I've also been looking into a Luciferian Vampyric occult group called 'The Black Order of the Dragon' and I am extremely interested in joining.

[One and Only...]

I often found however, that I seem to draw upon everyone's negative energy when I am in large crowds. The next day or two, I will be depressed and/or angry and upset. I'm not sure why this is, and I'm not sure if this is ever experienced through psi vampyrism.

Here is my method of dealing with this. See if it helps. I use the tendril method of visualization, but it could probably be adapted for other styles.

When drawing energy from your victim, visualize it as pitch black. Suspend the energy just outside your vamping tendril and mold it into a ball. Then envelop the ball with your other trendrils. Focus on feeling its raw, unadulterated strength. You might feel as though it would "burn" if you drew on it. Then, while draining from the ball, imagine the energy turning to a brilliant white or light yellow. Feel yourself attune with the energy, so that the energy will go wherever needed within you and it no longer burns. Continue until you have taken in all that you desire. If there is any excess energy, stop suspending the ball and let it dissipate.

Like I said, I don't really believe in "positive" or "negative" energy, just energy which is well or ill processed. The basic strategy behind this visualization is to turn ill into well. See if it works for you.

[Whore_of_the_black_abyss]

Thank you 'One and only' for your recommendation. It's not when I purposely or consciously draw energy from others though that I feel depressed. It is just when I am around other people say, when I am out at the pub etc. It seems that I am unconsciously drawing everyone's energy in. I will try to do those visualisations though and see how I go. Thank you.

[Jarhog]

Since I am a psy-vamp I will try to address the original question and some of the comments made. A true psy-vamp MUST feed on people to sustain themselves. They can't process the environmental energy like others can. Some folks call themselves psy-vamps but they have learned the skill and do it for the power and or intoxication feeding brings. If a true psy-vamp isolates themselves they will fall ill and experience things like depression, panic attacks, and irregular heart beat.

Many see it as immoral to feed on other without their permission. The problem is that donors are few and far between. This leaves one with the choice of isolation and illness or death, conscious feeding on the public at large, or ignoring the need and sub-consciously feeding on whoever crosses your path. I think we all know the last type who just sucks the life out of you or pokes at you to get a reaction then sucks you dry. I don't want to be that kind of person.

The original question is about addiction to feeding. I remember the intoxication the first time I feed. It was like the coming on of a psychedelic substance and it was powerful. As I have gone along I have kept well fed and I don't feel that nagging gnawing for something unknown. You may have some wounds that are bleeding energy that needs to be addressed because I think that when your well fed the desire won't be overpowering. I would urge you to seek an energy healer that knows about psy-vampirism.

A place that has a wealth of information on this subject it: Shadowdance (http://www.shadowdancepodcast.com/) the podcast is great and don't let the title about the show ending dissuade you. You will find me on there forum too under the same name.

[grim789]

Ok i am a psi vampire myself and i use the tendril method you are right the feeling is amazing i try to take little amounts of energy from people or i will usally try to get my energy from plants. This may be a suggestion to you to just feed off of nature it has a way of renewing itself i noticed this with a plant that i had. I know this is really frowned upon and im sorry but i will refer you to a website that i have been apart of for awhile that specify in vampirism its called Log In (http://www.vcmb.org) it will help you out.

[MissRachel]

For psi Vamps, there are four main types of energy. some feed from all, others from one or two.
Pranic energy (lifeforce energy)
Emotion energy ( that given off by emotions)
Tantric energy ( sevual energy)
Elemental energy (energy from the elements)

I'm a psi vamp, and I feed from all four. usualy whatever I have best acess to. I like groups of people, as mentioned they give off stronger amounts than just a single person. I don't get out much, so nature is my general feeding source. I feed from people, generaly during church. yeah, lol feeding on the christians.

lol love it you keep feeding on them christians

[Eumendies]

I have a problem, i do it naturally and cannot control it. I take energy naturally and cannot choose the target. Is there a way for me to learn to control it?

[Wolf]

I use to thrive off the energy I could leech from others. I learned how to as a survival technique, and after having to use it a few times, then doing whenever I felt low, I started doing it constantly to the point where I would hang out with people who had a seemingly infinite supply of energy to absorb. That was my younger, less experienced days in the Occult. Since I've been practicing again I haven't gotten around to attempting this again though. I might, but people are going to be strictly off limits for me.

[Jarhog]

I have a problem, i do it naturally and cannot control it. I take energy naturally and cannot choose the target. Is there a way for me to learn to control it? Conscious feeding can help you know what it is like when you do it. it also trains you to be able to stop. Those things have gone a long way for me to be able to check myself and stop it when I am doing it.

[controlledchaos]

well in a sense we are all vamps lol.. seriously though we are really like trees...everyhtinmg gives off energy man made or not. So when you feed u are also being fed o. Balance you kno. So really there is no reason to go hout and feed, unless you truley need to..if thts the case breathe...you'll get energy lol.

[Seyk]

Started doing this many years ago and am going to agree with the fact that is very very addictive and that anyone who would for example like to start practicing something like this, should first come to therms with the addiction and basicly reserve the mind to fight it. Not a few case of this ends up in people simply ravage-feeding themselves which is as I at least found out myself, not good.

Also, the motives are in question. In my younger days I used to feed on other people's energy because I was engry at them, wanting to see them week, exausted, drained, wanted to see them feel powerless, whilst now I would do it only if its truly needed by my body. This is precisley the reason why I would never call myself a psi-vampire, for I believe I do not deserve the "title" so to say, cause of this ravaging in the past.

About my practice itself, I found the tendril method to be most effective forme, found it to be the best ability that enaibles me to connect to multiple targets in large crowds, rather then picking off one by one or waiting for it to emit or whatever other tehnique that is. This worked forme best and havent changed it in years. One other thing I did was, seeing that some energy sometimes upon feeding doesnt feel good, mold it to my desires. Wether transforming it with my will or simply by interacting with the subject im feeding on, causing them to be angry if I desire to feed on that energy and so on.

Seeing I wasnt the only person doing this in my surrounding and that even those cloe to you will sometimes try to feed on you, other then the usual protection methods, I have used a sort of a "taint" attached tomy own energy, so if anyone who is not allowed to do so would try to take my energy from my, the "taint" would make his veins feel like burning and emit pain upon tasting my energy.

Huh, this turned out long. Wouldl ove to discuss more with people doing this however.

Oh, and, keep draining those christians :D

[Seyk]

don't think you can dear. i know a lot of Christians that probably feed off on you, i know i do and a few of the members here do.
Hah, true, thats why I dont hesitate to feed back :)

[devakxes]

The difference from it being learned and it being needed, is if a person is a psi-vampire then they do it naturally. They'll go towards you and they will do it even subconsciously. They'll be sensitive when walking into a room where a lot of energy was generated - more so than a regular sensitive because they are taking it in. There is a small amount of energy that happens to get exchanged in every interaction but it is noticeable even to the mundane when they interact with a psychic vampyre.

It is still possible to take energy but not with the ease of a psychic vampyre.

Typically the word ''vampyre'' is used because they cannot process regular sources of energy such as water, fire, plant, etc. even sunlight. The reasons for this tend to be chronic illness, severe emotional trauma, subtle body changes (the ways in which our chakras work), or having a high energy metabolism. The person with a high energy metabolism would go and eat various sources of energy in vast amount but since they need that much energy to begin with they can skip the conversion process and have their need quenched with human vital energy.

Severe emotional trauma victims tend to take in energy because they need energy in order to hold onto those traumas and deny them. Accepting them would help them let go but it is too difficult to do so. Thus they result in behaviors that drain others.

Chronic illness because it is unnatural tends to result in vampyrism since we use energy to heal.

There is also sympathetic vampyrism where a person is fed off of so aggressivly their energy is massivly depleted. Thus they become a psychic vampyre until their subtle body/auric wounds are healed.

[tavthe]

Symbiotic relationships. I do a fair bit of that as well. I have never really had any trouble drawing elemental energy, tantric energy, emotive or pranic for that matter. I always found large venues to be a real boon for drawing energy b/c of the availability of ambient energy found there. And I still do. But sometimes I still have problems differentiating between emotional energy and the rest - and once my empathy kicks in, its all over.

For sometime in my early 20s I thought I was in serious, dire need for this energy. Maybe I was at that time in my life. As I got a little older I discovered things changed. At one point I began to discover an ability to restore or recycle energy through the solar plexus. I brought this point to light on Sanguinarius once, but it never really developed into a serious discussion like I had hoped it would at the time. Its very possible this was never a 'vampiric' process at all. But it didn't make it any less real.

I think any sort of exercises that promote the procession of energy like tai chi or yoga can come in handy when doing anything at all with energy. It hasn't "fixed" the select damaged chakras that I know I have, and sometimes I wonder if that's because they're not damaged at all. Just different. Studies on energy centres focus on an understanding of human energy but does not seem to take into account, imo, for people who remotely resemble otherkin or possess any additional types of soul energy.

I welcome any thoughts or ideas on any of these points.

[devakxes]

Otherkin tend to take in energy because they need the extra in order to stay in the human body.

The naval is what is used as a filter and draws in energy into the body. It also can refine energy in the same manner as the solar plexus is normally used to process energy. It makes sense the solar plexus is used to process energy when it is right above the stomach.

Have you read the psychic vampire codex?
You should read that. It is designed to help out psychic vampires to help tame their hunger as well as introduce the kheperian system of energy work.

They should have it on sacred-texts.org

[Astral Eye]

I am being targeted by a PSIvamp, I'm sure of it. I've been feeling drained, and I was working with energies, when I felt them being drained. I let them go, then I felt my personal energies (aura, chakra, whatever you want to call it) being drained. I tried to push whatever was draining me away, but it pushed back, as if it was crazy, ravenous. I did what I could to block it, summoning up energies to distract it, while I cast a circle. It worked as a defense, but I can't keep up a circle forever. What should I do. I'm low and have allready fell asleep twice on the couch before I thought to look here. PLEASE help me.

[devakxes]

You can feed off of natural energies. I suggest drinking a cup of water and eating some light foods.

As to stop it, you should erect barriers of energy that are made from the elements.

some examples of barriers are putting energy in your walls with the intent of keeping unwanted energies out of your home. Then you need to draw energy from an element and have it so a continous feed is esstablished between the ward and the chosen element. You could also do the same thing with a ring, visualizing a shield of energy around you that keeps unwanted energies from entering and then established a feed of energy from an element to the ring/shield. Make sure to interweave the energies of the shield and the element that is chosen.

You could also act offensively against the entity but I'll let someone else explain some examples of how to do this.

[Cartoon Character]

Ninfan, you are correct in that energy can be drawn from anything in the environment and then used for different purposes. Certain Daoist methods of qigong (chi gong) focus primarily on training this skill, and it's something that I do on a regular basis, particularly with trees, sunlight, and other "natural" phenomena. Many methods involve the absorbing of qi through the palms of the hands, but I sometimes use breath inhalation or absorbing through the pores of the skin too. Most often, energy is returned (as is usually the case with using trees: draw in through the palms (Yin), send energy through the body and emit back into the ground (Yang), circulating back into the tree's roots. The idea is that the tree's energy will serve to "flush" the negative energies of the body, then that energy is sent to the Earth where it is neutralized, then back to the specific tree. Not only does this process serve to invigorate and strengthen the person, but some of the tree's residual energy is left in the body, which over time helps to strengthen the aura and make one more resilient to harmful energetic currents.

I normally absorb the energy of a particular element for a particular purpose, or draw qi for the purpose of projecting to someone or something else, usually for healing purposes; physical, mental, emotional or otherwise. Problems can sometimes be found in controlling the projection, however. I usually do this at a distance, and have found that when absorbing and projecting the sun's energy to someone who is ill, I sometimes send them too much, and they not only feel better but also then have too much energy, somewhat like a caffeine high. I have also found that when breaking a fever with Yang energy, I have projected too forcefully and the person then becomes drenched in sweat and needs to cool down for a while. At least in my case, this seems to be directly proportionate to the amount of energy I have absorbed, the energy source itself, and the force of my intent.

So, in agreement with the other posts here, the exact same methods can be used to drain a person and possibly even kill them if they are targeted in the right (or wrong, as the case may be) way. And yes, Daoist methods like Tai Chi Chuan, Bagua, Xing Yi, and any other Daoist kung fu system utilize these techniques, whether people realize it or not. More specifically, there are again certain meditations and qigongs designed to train these skills. For anyone having trouble with absorbing energy, I would recommend working with projecting energy for a while. If you can feel it, shape it and project it, you can also absorb it. That's more or less a matter of reversing the projection process, which becomes more intuitive the more you work with it.

[devakxes]

Some believe that psychic vampyrism is actually the result of not having too much natural energies to feed upon. A lot of psychic vampires tend to live in cities. I find this interesting.

A psychic vampire who is able to consciously feed, either has such a high energy metabolism that they need massive amounts of energy or because they can only process specific kinds. For this reason, using energies from your environment would be essential in protecting yourself. Considering that they are plentiful in energy and it will hurt the psychic vampire if they can only process specific kinds of energy.

[Cartoon Character]

I think that devakxes makes an interesting point in mentioning that processing certain types of energy can be harmful. Energetic sources which give off sha qi ("killing" or "evil" qi) are to be avoided for cultivation and integration in the general sense, as they can hurt the person drawing from them. Examples of such places in the environment are areas with dead trees or vegetation, stagnant water sources, places with a lot of power lines, specific geographical locations such as "T" intersections, any place with an abundance of dead or decaying matter, etc. This is related to basic feng shui theory and to a degree, weather magick as well. Other environmental sources such as certain caves, waterways, mountains, fields, etc. are seen as being beneficial. Areas with a lot of pine trees are believed to be particularly auspicious and can hold great amounts of good qi. It is also believed in qigong circles that energetic cultivation during an electrical storm should generally be avoided, although I have done this too and it hasn't killed me. Well, yet, anyway. ;)

The same things can be said for drawing energy from people, in that not all of the energy one can absorb is helpful to the person absorbing it. I have a very empathic friend who I have done energy work with, and I've told her to draw from me in the past at various times for various purposes. I would usually bolster myself first, and after drawing some of my qi she has felt more confident, stronger and energetic. She also seems to get some of my attitude along with it, which could be beneficial or not. Likewise, when around a very negative and intentionally "bad" person (her very abusive ex-boyfriend), she not only will sometimes feel physically ill, but tends to develop a pretty crappy attitude as well. I think it's a good idea to practice energetic shielding and filtering when doing any kind of energy work, whether it's healing, absorbing, projecting feelings or whatever. Not only does this help to build one's ability and confidence with using energy, but also helps to protect them.

[Astral Eye]

I understant the theory of what you're saying but how do you do it in practice.

[Cartoon Character]

I understant the theory of what you're saying but how do you do it in practice.
How do you absorb and project energy in practice? Or create energetic filters and "sense" where good or bad energy might be?

[Astral Eye]

I meditate, then feel for a certian type of energy and then either visualize it being absorbed by my body or I "breathe it in".