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akakabuto
09-02-2009, 09:27 PM
Hello everyone.

Just found a book I ve been looking for a long time now at Ebay and I m wondering if someone can tell me about it.
Book is named Qabalah, qliphot and goetic magic.

Best!

Andyr
09-02-2009, 10:10 PM
Qabalah, Qliphoth and Goetic Magic combines the esoteric tomes together into a practical handbook of texts that go beyond just the Sefer Yetzirah and the Zohar and also the Christian and Hermetic Qabalahs the result is a clear picture of the creation of the Sephiroth (Tree of Knowledge)

One section of the book ends with a range of Qliphotic invocations that you can try yourself and the impression is created that the information was quite possibly learned by actual exploration by Karlsson himself as the ways of contacting these spirits are quite original. He does however warn that the budding Klippothic magician needs to be mentally stable and well balanced, Overall it is a realistic and functional guide to the dark arts.

Izabael_DaJinn
12-05-2009, 07:38 PM
I have not read that particular book, but Grant's Nightside of Eden is a book I recommend on the Qliphoth. It also has the rare distinction for a Kenneth Grant book as being mostly comprehensible.

That said, I am curious about this book. Does anyone have more information specifically on what it says about the Goetia and how it relates to Qliphoth? Is the point to invoke the more sinister aspects of the demon? (Doesn't the sinister side of demons usually try to come out anyway?)

I've worked with extensively with Qliphoth and Goetia, but I am curious how he goes about working with both together and to what purpose.

xoxo
Iza

Phnouthis
12-12-2009, 04:51 AM
Yeah, if anyone out there has read the book, then s/he would be granting a great boon to us all by providing a summary--my opinion of modern occult works tends to be very low, and, at this point, I am little inclined to invest money or time in the half-assed, flatulations of my so-called colleages, without a good deal of credible recommendation. What original Hebrew texts does Karlsson cite, aside from the Sepher Yetzirah and Zohar? (I mean, one would expect that if he were familiar with the original Hebrew Kabbalistic works, he would follow the standard practice of Hebrew-to-Latin script orthography and transliterate the word as 'Kelifot.')

Natasha77
12-12-2009, 05:02 AM
I will vouch for Karlsson. That book is a very solid book on the Qlipphoth. Although I personally think he added a STRONG accent of Eastern European mythos which is what he and his Order practices. It is a good over-view. It gives a good outline/structure. It's worth the money. The Qlipphoth is to be EXPERIENCED. No amount of words from any transcript can accurately describe it.
I do support what Pnouthis says. Be sure to study real traditional sources before studying second-hand Tree of Life or Tree of Death books. It helps to know the real meaning of the Hebrew words.

Tanemis
12-12-2009, 02:30 PM
Another place for some Kabbalah texts is:

Free Ebooks on Kabbalah (http://www.occult-underground.com/kabbalah.html)

Phnouthis
12-13-2009, 07:44 AM
Thanks for the resources Tanemis.

Yeah, my previous post was unnecessarily harsh and critical. Perhaps a misdirected venting of exasperations originating elsewhere. I chatted with Karlsson a few times--now, about a decade ago--and he seemed a perfectly competent chap to me.

"The Qlipphoth is to be EXPERIENCED. No amount of words from any transcript can accurately describe it."

I find this interesting. To my knowledge, I have not done any formal working with the Kelifot. What changes exactly are such operations intended to effect? (I have, however, participated in goetic evocations, determining at the time that it just wasn't my gig).

Veritas_Requiem
04-28-2010, 07:30 PM
The book is shipping as we speak, i'll take a gander at it and put down my observations for anyone interested, within the next week or so. That way i have a chance to test some of the methods and whatnot....

~Veritas