mythos, real or fake

[TrueMagick]

The cthulhu mythos by lovecraft and others.
they speak of a few very interesting grimoire's that may or may not be fictional.
here are a few: necronomicon
mysteries of the worm
pnakotic manuscripts
book of eibon
celaeno fragments
nameless cults
cults of the ghouls

please tell me your opinion on these books (true or false)[/i]

[wickedchild]

When Lovecraft wrote about the thing that should not be , he was having a syphalys(?) induced hallusination . To top that off , he was also an avid opium user .

[WretchedSpawn]

yher the guy was so wacked out of his gord on a std he saw alot of stuff he wrote mostly about norse mytholagy in his stuff mainly on the ancient side ment to scare kids from misbehaveing but yher he was minced was also a opium addict if i rerember

[nocturn.]

The cthulhu mythos and any works associated with it is fiction! But the magick works. Why? If there is enough energy poured into a thoughtform, it becomes a reality. Read up on servitors, egregores and godforms if you want more info. I have a few good books and stuff on it so lemme know!

[arsniclulliby]

the mad arab, the necronomicon, and all other grimores listed in the lovecraftian works are all fiction. but as stated above if enough people believe in something it begins to take on it's own consciousness.

[Gazeeboh]

Real and Fake.

Like the universe.

If it works use it, if not, ditch it.

Who cares beyond that?

And why would you all insinuate that drugs somehow tarnish the validity of claims made? Especially into the other world, in which we don't' really have a clue as to what it is?

[isis]

becouse some drugs make u see things that are not their. like the sears in egypt saw things and told futers by useing drugs that was steamed throu some vints under that floor. so sometimes u have fulse visusion while under a drug bleave me i tryed them.

[polski]

I have a question, perhaps more of a philosophical one- According to the Mad Arab, ENKI is the creator of man, so according to him, would Enki then be the same god as the God of the Abrahamic religions? I understand that this is a work of fiction, but it's something to think about...

[isis]

that is a very good question..

[Gazeeboh]

ENKI is not the same as YHVH.

The only parallel is that they created man.

On Drugs: Everything that we experience is real. Our brain is made of chemicals and shows us the world through chemicals. Drugs just show us a different world. There is no reality, not an objective one at least, nothing concrete. So drug trips are just as valid as being awake, dreaming, dead, or any other state of being.

In my world at least, yours might be different.

[Stargazer]

I have to disagree with the thought-form ideas posited in this thread. Although I believe in egregores and similar concepts, we must not lose sight of one very important basic element: the Mythos is a virtually endless system because Lovecraft has given his readers many hidden hints about what else is out there beyond his primary dreamed-up Gods and creatures. Would even all of mankind combined have the will-power to call to life even a fraction of this mythos? I think not.

But, interesting question: if it would be able to conceive of, for example, Cthulhu, would Cthulhu's abilities and knowledge be limited to what we have injected him with? Or would he take all the information and veiled hints that Lovecraft has written about him and that we don't know about (e.g. "I learned whence Cthulhu first came, and why half the great temporary stars of history had flared forth. I guessed [...] the secret behind the Magellanic Clouds and globular nebulae...") and be able to further develop himself and take that hidden, abstract information and develop those as well?