Magick for finding love

[morningstar]

I am looking for a spell/type of magick to find love. I know that there are a few techniques given in the spells secton but I am looking for a technique to find love rather than make someone fall in love with me. What would be the best method? The options that I have in mind are candles, talismans, solomons key & chaos magick techniques like sigils. What would be the best techniques to explore?

[ZeldaFitz]

Meditation and Visualization.

[morningstar]

But isn't visualizing on its own the weakest method for achieving a desire? the reason being it is a conscious method & is influenced by lust & failure of result. I could make a sigil but chaos magick hasn't worked for me before (not that I have given it up).

[Belphebe]

Visualization which is a form of invoking the elements that is needed is very strong if you have the know how, sigils do not always work, you visualize and say to yourself I will not I won't. You ask for advice and when Queen Zelda tells you, the first thing you do is question, there is your defeat immediately.

[morningstar]

Visualization which is a form of invoking the elements that is needed is very strong if you have the know how, sigils do not always work, you visualize and say to yourself I will not I won't. You ask for advice and when Queen Zelda tells you, the first thing you do is question, there is your defeat immediately.

I didn't mean it that way, I do appreciate her advice but I was merely stating what I had learnt from my study.

[zero]

But isn't visualizing on its own the weakest method for achieving a desire? the reason being it is a conscious method & is influenced by lust & failure of result. I could make a sigil but chaos magick hasn't worked for me before (not that I have given it up).

I don't agree; for to visualize a single point gives life to that point, and imprints the subconscious and also the universe if I may be so bold. is there any magic that does not use visualization, and what is a sigil? It is the focus of the intent.

belasko is right, but first find what you need to change, yet before that can be done effectively one needs to know thy self. magic is all about change but first you need to know what is.

[ZeldaFitz]

No visualization is not for one point, but you visualize when invoking from the astral, day dream is a form of visualization, just thinking of a purpose is important, we use visualization in many magick practice, that and meditation are two of the most fundamental first learns. You can't draw love to you by any means unless you change yourself as B said and be the kind of person that many love. Too much is wasted on this and that when what is better. If I wanted to be mundane about this, join a group, go to a bookstore, volunteer, take up a sport and keep a positive attitude. Like attracts like and if what you are drawing to you is negative then get away and take a good long look at why.

[Belphebe]

Zelda is absolutely right and Belasko has it going.

[morningstar]

Thank you everyone for replying. I will use visualization probably with candles before sleeping & after waking up. About changing myself, I don't mean to sound arrogant but I don't have loe self confidence or poor social skills nor do I get rejected. Not that I am saying I am perfect, if I do see anything in myself that I need to change I will admit it first & work on it.

I have changed myself a lot already, since childhood I had severe social anxiety & acute shyness (& some more skeletons in my closet ) which I overcame by using affirmations & rigid self control. Its just that since a long time, I have not been in any 'situation' where I can meet somebody. What Zelda suggested was very wise but I have tried things like that .. joining the same interest group etc but I have still not met the right one.

To reiterate, the problem is not that I am being rejected but its that I can't even find the right person. I must also make it clear that I am not looking for the perfect girl, if you know what I mean. Everyone has flaws & if i like the person I can embrace their flaws just as much.

[ZeldaFitz]

I understood every thing you wrote, the right person will come along, when it is time.

[Plarkenstorf]

I have not been in any 'situation' where I can meet somebody

Perhaps, instead of magic for once, you need a good stiff drink at a seedy pub?

[morningstar]

Perhaps, instead of magic for once, you need a good stiff drink at a seedy pub?

I don't use magick for any trifle thing (not that I think its wrong), I have tried pubs too but haven't met any single girl there. To be honest, the country in which I live, sex is still somewhat a taboo, in many families women even after turning 18 are not allowed to go out late at night. Now please don't tell me to relocate :)

[morningstar]

Thankyou, hope I have not given the impression of being so desperate :)


I understood every thing you wrote, the right person will come along, when it is time.

[ZeldaFitz]

No you did not give me the impression you were desperate at all. I find once you feel comfortable in your own skin, and can truly feel fine about being alone, not lonely but alone, and when you have forgotten about it, love finds you.

[Jarhog]

I have struggled with this sort of thing too. I know for myself I have studied and practice the art of pickup to this end. The stat that I always try to remember is that 8 out of 10 of the women I approach will already be involved and not open to me. I add that only a few % of that 20% will not run screaming into the night or try to "save me" when they find out I practice the magickal arts. I live in the bible belt of the US so many think I need saving. I try to stack the deck in my favor by going to places that are more friendly to such practices. I know that once I got into some of the more public groups like meetup and the local pagan community center I was lead to the more private underground places that I never knew existed.

I have done some attraction rituals and they went kind of aunty Clara no me. The women would just pop up at the most inopportune moments and I could not really take advantage of the situation. I have since been working on doing approaches on my terms and that seems to work better for me. I can't say that I have found to woman of my dreams yet but I have had some nice experiences along the way and much less rejection because I can feel them out before I ever take the step of asking them out.

I don't know if this helps any but I feel your pain.

[ZeldaFitz]

Jarhog you are very intuitive.

[Jarhog]

I should have added above that just because you are using the art of pickup does not mean that you can't use magick as part of your game.

[crowley666]

I have done some attraction rituals and they went kind of aunty Clara no me. The women would just pop up at the most inopportune moments and I could not really take advantage of the situation.

I have a similar experience. I did a ritual with a picture of a girl I feel strongly for and my will was so sharp even with all winds blowing in the other direction. It made the spell that more powerful. Like yours though I saw the girl in my town from my car even though she lives in Madison and I had an appoitment and didn't stop. Though I wish I had. Talk about a rejection of the higher will being in synch with my human will.

[SeekerOfTheForm]

I add that only a few % of that 20% will not run screaming into the night or try to "save me" when they find out I practice the magickal arts.

The fourth power of the Sphinx is silence.

That is to say, why does anyone need to know?

Albeit, I wear long hair and a beard, and I've begun getting my alchemical tattoo's, but not even my tattooist/piercer has any real clue as to what's actually going on in the process. I don't advertise though, and if I was pressed for an explanation, I'd hardly find it hard to explain what those symbols are and what they mean to me to a lover.

'course I don't bed women casually, and have no care to, but in the event someone cared enough to try to "save" me, or was offended, I'd shrug my shoulders and move on if they truly felt that way after I'd explained my beliefs.