Question Regarding Satanism

[As Above,So Below]

I've been researching about Satanism and i am quite confused about it.
If i may be so bold as to ask, here are my questions



1. Is jesus Christ Real, and is god real

2. Is christianity a real religion, or is it a hoax

3. Can i practice Satanic magic with good intentions, eg aquiring a job, finding love, etc

4. What is the best route to approach spiritual satanism, what is the best way to learn about it, you can tell me about it here or refer me to a site

5. How should someone new to Satanism begin practicing satanic magic



Please don't tell me to go look it up or something, i have researched in different places and i now have mixed messages

[As Above,So Below]

Black magic = going mad
White magic = loss of physical body


Lovely


Seriously, what you said was helpful, thankyou

[crowley666]

1. Is jesus Christ Real, and is god real

2. Is christianity a real religion, or is it a hoax

3. Can i practice Satanic magic with good intentions, eg aquiring a job, finding love, etc

4. What is the best route to approach spiritual satanism, what is the best way to learn about it, you can tell me about it here or refer me to a site

5. How should someone new to Satanism begin practicing satanic magic


1. it's likely Jesus Christ did live. It's absolutely certain that Jesus was atleast a metaphor for a man or similar men who lived around the same time with similar concepts as Jesus was reported to espouse especially the idea that they were the messiah spoke of in the old testamant and were persecuted by the romans and the jewish population loyal to them.
God is real if you believe he is real, it's a pluralistic world.

2. Of course Christianity is a real religion. Whether you think it's a hoaz depends on wether you believe in the idea or not, just like any other idea. Again, it's a pluralistic world.

3. yes, but think about this.

4. every action should be an act of empowering yourself with no regard for others. Thisdoesn't mean treat people like ****, just that you come first.

five: practice magick with your santanic principles in mind.

[zero]

a saying I ha always liked:

"The 'higher' you reach to the gods of light,
the 'lower' you must plunge to the gods of darkness.
To ignore their presence is to guarantee their eventual dominion over your will."


1. Is jesus Christ Real, and is god real

I see christ as a buddha every one "can" attain it; the idea of buddha head, atma, christ head, etc..

God...I have my opinions on that, god is but god.

2. Is christianity a real religion, or is it a hoax

It is a believe, the unfortunate part of it is those in power have misled the masses for there own ends...keeping what they see as power.

3. Can i practice Satanic magic with good intentions, eg aquiring a job, finding love, etc

Magic of good intentions is white madick. At least by definition,though my definition differs in the way that magic is just magic.

4. What is the best route to approach spiritual satanism, what is the best way to learn about it, you can tell me about it here or refer me to a site

As student to master, then equal, and finally master.

[As Above,So Below]

Good answers guys, thanks.


I take it both of you have a lot more knowledge on this than i do, so to begin my magickal path, what are some things that i should learn to do, to start practicing magick? the basics more or less

[Diabolos11]

[QUOTE=As Above,So Below;25660]I've been researching about Satanism and i am quite confused about it.
If i may be so bold as to ask, here are my questions



1. Is jesus Christ Real, and is god real

* Why does it matter if they are real or not? Some think Jesus was real others that he wasn't. As for God this is a matter of personal experience and knowledge. You can't give a definitive answer, it's subjective.

2. Is christianity a real religion, or is it a hoax

*It's as real as any religion!

3. Can i practice Satanic magic with good intentions, eg aquiring a job, finding love, etc

*Satanic magick is about self-empowerment and development, where are the bad intentions in that? Black-White definitions are nonsense.

4. What is the best route to approach spiritual satanism, what is the best way to learn about it, you can tell me about it here or refer me to a site

*Type spiritual satanism into a search engine!

5. How should someone new to Satanism begin practicing satanic magic

*I'd say read the works of Michael Ford, like his beginners book to luciferian magick. Whatever people think of his work he has his head screwed on and you can learn much from Him imo. More so then a lot of the flakey, nutty satanists on the internet.

[DeadManWalking]

@As Above,So Below
first you have to find every day some time to meditate, than practice visualization and concentration and of course keep reading and informing about satanism, magic...Than you can start with the rituals..
How long are you interesting in Satanism?have you already done dedication ritual?

[Dajai]

1. Is jesus Christ Real, and is god real

You mean, did Jesus Christ live and walk the same Earth as us? I don't know. I presume, from my own studies that he was possibly many people or even a metaphor for every man's potential, as Zero has already mentioned.

There are the gods in the Christian Bible and then there is the Qabalic formula: Ain Soph Aur. It even mentions in the Bible not to worship false idols and yet man seems to attempt to grasp at this particular form of divinity by making a god in our own image when we are already emanations of God. Does anyone see anything wrong with this picture?

So it really depends on which god you are asking about. I can't deny the Kabalic Force that I mentioned but as far as humanoid entities existing without my seeing; that's a matter of belief.




2. Is christianity a real religion, or is it a hoax

It's as real as it needs to be, whether the information that it teaches is correct or not resonates on more of a personal level and is another matter for belief; which I have no right to dictate.




3. Can i practice Satanic magic with good intentions, eg aquiring a job, finding love, etc

Laveyan Satanism is about improving the self and acquiring what is desired by any means necessary -firstly, with one's physical abilities; using magick as a last resort; as it should always be. Satanism in this guise concerns itself with realism over spiritualism -another reason for inverting the pentagram.

But what are these so called good intentions? You could work magick to acquire a job which might involve the death of an employee in order to make room in the company for you. If your actions lead to another person's death, are these the stuff of good intentions? If you need clarification in this area then you might want to do a little soul-searching and decide whether good or evil have to mean anything other than personal opinion; of which I shall give you one of my own: There is no room for morals in magick.




4. What is the best route to approach spiritual satanism, what is the best way to learn about it, you can tell me about it here or refer me to a site

Spiritual Satanism isn't exactly my thing but it is very interesting nevertheless. Spiritual or Theistic Satanism regards Satan as an external entity rather than the driving force of personal Will that could describe Laveyan Satanism.

According to Theistic study, the Antichrist is/could be a body of men, rather than just one; in which case the Spiritual Satanist might observe his Lord's work through Laveyan Satanists -whilst recognising that they have organised themselves in His name; whereas the Laveyan might disregard this theory, claiming a Satanic Pride of His own.




5. How should someone new to Satanism begin practicing satanic magic

That is for you to work out. Read lots.




Please don't tell me to go look it up or something, i have researched in different places and i now have mixed messages

That's the thing. Every path will be full of deception. You'll have to sift through the wealth of **** and decide how much it is worth to you. It's the same for every path.

[Ravana]

1. Is jesus Christ Real, and is god real.

As in jesus being the way the truth and THE light, as in this being factual no way.
History tells us that the four gospels were written after 100 AD, so the writers were in no way eye witnesses nor could the writers be who they or christians claim them to be.
However it doesn’t matter what myths you use you can find results working with gods of light or the inverse pantheons of all religions.
Which would mean that you would need a basic understanding of aeons and spiritual currents to get a full grasp of this. Take Horus for example it is not hard to see jesus in him. Jesus has his own current as so does Set from Egypt people have had experiences with both these deities.

2. Is christianity a real religion, or is it a hoax.

I would have to firmly agree with Diabolos11 where he has stated, It's as real as any religion!. I would also add it is as real to you as you want it to be. All religions and myths can not be true all at the same time this is obvious, and this is where you would be advised to understand magical/spiritual currents.
Currents are real.


3. Can i practice Satanic magic with good intentions, eg aquiring a job, finding love, etc.

My opinion would be to use a powerful system such as hoodoo, it is fairly simple to learn, will cater for all your needs that you have mentioned and some.also any deity can be approached through this system. I have worked with this system of magic for years due to being disappointed in the information out there on Satanism for my needs, exceptions would be anything from the 218 current available, demonolatry, and whatever rites I have had to create and work out myself. But we are all different so it may be worth looking for something to suit your needs and ideas.

4. What is the best route to approach spiritual Satanism, what is the best way to learn about it, you can tell me about it here or refer me to a site.

One group put me off looking deeper into spiritual Satanism so I cant comment I may have a look around sometime in the future out of curiosity.

5. How should someone new to Satanism begin practicing satanic magic.

By facing the painful truth that Satanism has no ancient manuscripts from 2000BC-200AD, those who were accused in a book such as the new testament of being, agents of Satan were heretics, the only proof that may prove that there was satanic sects would be from the book of revelation where jesus speaks of those who claim to have the secrets of Satan but this book is dealing with so many symbols its hard to know when to take the meaning as literal. Any Devil such as Apep or Satan do not seem to have had followers.
Satanism is a modern thing which is due to a aeon change. Black magic on the other hand has been practiced from probably as soon as man arrived on the planet. Witchcraft from the burning times would be nice to point to but there was torture involved in the confessions.
To begin practicing satanic magic you will have to trust others to guide you, who hopefully have done their home work in creating their systems, the good ones will be working with gnosis from the spirits they are working with or/and have a good knowledge of how to put a real and workable system together. And when you have a good knowledge of magic you can create your own rituals.

[Justinfh]

DO SOME RESEARCH! LOL, sorry, couldn't resist. Anyway, on the answering your questions.




1. Is jesus Christ Real, and is god real

When it comes to God or any god, I don't know and I don't care. Now, I do believe that a man named Jesus existed that went around the country side and preached and even crucified. But I don't believe that he did anything supernatural like bringing people back to life, and of course, I don't believe that he was the son of God

2. Is christianity a real religion, or is it a hoax

WTF?

3. Can i practice Satanic magic with good intentions, eg aquiring a job, finding love, etc

Sure. You use magic for whatever reason you want.

4. What is the best route to approach spiritual satanism, what is the best way to learn about it, you can tell me about it here or refer me to a site

I'm not a spiritual satanist, so I don't know.

5. How should someone new to Satanism begin practicing satanic magic

Start off with the basics like meditation I assume.