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predestiined
01-23-2010, 04:26 AM
I had an experience that disturbed me last night. I would love to hear opinions, it seems suspicious to me.
I woke up around 3am i think and layed there for atleast an hour. It's one of those times you wake up and wonder why. so something made a noise outside my room and i was like oooh perfect time for a ghostly encounter, i'm sarcastic. This could be sleep paralysis. I got this feeling on my face like some kind of energy was touching me, akward i know. it moved around and i'm pretty sure it felt my pulse. Near the end of this experience the touch of it physcially hurt. after awhile my arm started going tingley because for some reason there was no blood getting to it, no i was not laying on it, it was out streched. SO it kind of hurt after awhile but i thought that maybe there was a freak thing going on there wit the blankets. Whateverr it was when it started at my legs, there was a strange pressure on them that i cannot place, they started to numb after awhile. What i assume to be the hand would feel my right leg like disturbingly. The energy of the assumed hand would stay in one place for long periods of time and then move along. i heard another creak in the floor outside my room, i don't know what that was, but it was still there, so there might of been two.
I was really concerned when my wrist actually hurt so much, i looked at it and was like OHMYGODAGOKG. then i layed on it and it didn't happen again. Basic instinct tells me that if it's getting all my limbs (except the left arm?), i was like NO not my neck. I'm frightened with that major vein anyway. i was taking my pulse cause i didn't want to die. the pressure had started on one side, there was almost no plus on that side, but on the other side my heart was definatly still going, on that side.. i was freakkkiiinn
That's pretty much it, then i was like ENOUGH OF THIS, and turned on my light and i was really dizzy. I did not sleep, then i woke up and saw a shadow person, whaddaya know. and it followed me to school. yes.... ueh.

Few things i don't understand, my cat was there half of the time. and with all the experiences i've had in my house the animals seem relatively oblivious, if not compeletly. So maybe i'm jusst going a little crazy. it was during the eighth hour, i don't really know the significance of that.

Thoughts please.

ZeldaFitz
01-23-2010, 05:52 PM
They have always appeared periodically but since working with the XOYLO, they have appeared more frequently.

ZeldaFitz
01-23-2010, 09:46 PM
Hell yeah Tolka, we have a physicist taking the course who works with the Goetia, and he was floored by the Demons, and Angels. I did one ritual with a supposedly benign being and my face was sunburned for two days, what a rush. LOL. He is a teacher at the EM school, my friend Emma helps him, he just finished an advanced course. The course is not for beginners, it is better for ones who have worked with Angels and Demons before, I can say one thing you get results and the physical manifestations are amazing.

ZeldaFitz
01-23-2010, 10:02 PM
Oh you will be very surprised, and if you want first hand as I said he teaches the course which is free at EM.

ZeldaFitz
01-23-2010, 10:08 PM
Esoteric Magick you are a member there, I believe.

predestiined
01-25-2010, 11:36 PM
I may have a question, since i am not well informed in the behavior of other worldly beings.
Isn't it a common belief that animals react strongly to other presences. Or is it different with shadow beings? My animals don't notice these things at alll.

ZeldaFitz
01-26-2010, 07:29 PM
Neither are the teachers, believe me you had to be voted on, and there were a few who didn't think you could make the grade. All the teachers are adepts and mages, and that school is not that easy to get into hence the application, if they don't like what a student puts out you're gone.

ZeldaFitz
01-26-2010, 08:39 PM
Oh Tolka Tolka Tolka EM is not a carbon copy and the whole staff are very advanced, you are under a misapprehension that if you disagree you are out, biggest mistake newbies make. Most people are terrified of the staff there as they know they are advanced and can spot a bull **** artist a mile away. I am very curious as to see what savitR says to you about the goetia, Emma sent me an email, she is getting a kick out of it all.

ZeldaFitz
01-26-2010, 09:07 PM
only in the deep dark recesses of the mind. It is probably familiar because they are all banned members from different forums for disagreeing WITH THE ADMIN, HENCE THEY STARTED THEIR OWN FORUM. MY KEYS ARE STUCK DAMN IT.

crowley666
01-26-2010, 09:26 PM
it's cool tolka it had to do with me. they were testing me sorry, little collateral damage.

ZeldaFitz
01-26-2010, 09:37 PM
no one would ever test you C666. Tolka Emma has diarrhea of the mouth, she lacks social skills, even though she is welsh, hey maybe that's it. :rolleyes:

crowley666
01-26-2010, 09:52 PM
no one, not even you?

ZeldaFitz
01-26-2010, 11:26 PM
no one, not even you?

well no, I am a pain in the ass, but you knew that didn't you C?

crowley666
01-26-2010, 11:55 PM
well no, I am a pain in the ass, but you knew that didn't you C?

well ofcourse, so you know who I am?

Johannes Lund
01-27-2010, 12:53 AM
predestiined

about the energy on you chest it might be an entity called a mare, (Nightmare) or in danish mareridt, it is a little creature which sits on you chest and feeds of you spiritual energy.

about the shadow men, they could also be beings so complicated that the human mind arent able to comprehend there actual look, i might want to speak to you, heck i dont know

if you are really find these intruders really annoying simply create a protective barrier using the four corners of you bed as the carnal points, that what i did, and its kind of clever since it still allows for magickal practises without some barrier interacting with you work, but at the same time it insures a good night sleep

ZeldaFitz
01-27-2010, 09:44 AM
well ofcourse, so you know who I am?

I am starting to figure it out.

ZeldaFitz
01-27-2010, 02:15 PM
The threads here always get hijacked, I am guilty as all hell when it comes to that.

ZeldaFitz
01-28-2010, 09:45 AM
predestiined

about the energy on you chest it might be an entity called a mare, (Nightmare) or in danish mareridt, it is a little creature which sits on you chest and feeds of you spiritual energy.

about the shadow men, they could also be beings so complicated that the human mind arent able to comprehend there actual look, i might want to speak to you, heck i dont know

if you are really find these intruders really annoying simply create a protective barrier using the four corners of you bed as the carnal points, that what i did, and its kind of clever since it still allows for magickal practises without some barrier interacting with you work, but at the same time it insures a good night sleep

there is no creature that sits on your chest, it is just a legend. the shadow people are created from our fears, and emotions, they come from the subconscious. they can not hurt you unless you believe they can.

ZeldaFitz
01-28-2010, 09:45 AM
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how your keys know zelda

my keys went out to lunch. too much of a break.

Johannes Lund
01-28-2010, 11:54 AM
the old occultist thougth it was worth mentioning and so did i.

even so, if creatures are created by your subconscious, then they will hold both your love as well as your hatred, so in theory they can hurt you on a mental level, that is if you in any way arent satisfied with yourself.
further more a constant hallucinations (as a result of a subconscius manifesting) can eventually result in trauma, paranoir, and other mental sufferings.

my advise is steel your mind, find out why it is there, look inwards and look for signs that you have been neglegting a part of yourself.

though it could also be a result of insomnia, or to little sleep, during the sleep we pass through REM fases(dreams) in these fases the mind acts out emotions and deals with unsolved conflicts. if we do not pass through our REM fases it can result in anger problems, and sometimes(in very rare cases) hallucinations, if that is the case i strongly reccommend exorsice, fresh air, sex, and good night sleep and cut down on the caffaine
since overdosis of caffaine can result insomnia as well or lucid dreaming

my 2 cents