pineal -DMT -THOH

[Barrie07]

Hi guys,

I have been reading of late about opening the third eye (Pineal Gland) and have come across the ‘Thoh’ technique time and time again.

I have tried saying Thoh, but cannot get my tongue to vibrate. How do u do this ?

When i say thoh’ my tongue starts touching my teeth, but as soon as I finish the ‘TH’ part my tongue automatically moves to the back of my mouth.

I mean say ‘The’ and notice were the tongue ends up

Do u guys have a link that shows someone doing it?

Also, is there a natural version of DMT? Or closest thing to.

I have read crazy stuff about this drug. I assume the government (illuminati) banned this for a reason.

[MrK]

It is about as intelligent to drill a hole in your forehead to open your third eye as it is to use things like DMT.

[ZeldaFitz]

****!! I am speechless for once.

[crowley666]

It is about as intelligent to drill a hole in your forehead to open your third eye as it is to use things like DMT.

have you ever experienced a DMT flash. You seem to talk about alot of things that you have no experience in and think your the pronosticator of pronosticators. This is all I'm going tosay because I know anti doesn't want this forum to have drug talk all over it.

[MrK]

have you ever experienced a DMT flash. You seem to talk about alot of things that you have no experience in and think your the pronosticator of pronosticators. This is all I'm going tosay because I know anti doesn't want this forum to have drug talk all over it.

At least I am not only talking crap like you are.

[crowley666]

derpa derpa. wait what did you say. derpa. I can't hear you lol.

[MrK]

derpa derpa. wait what did you say. derpa. I can't hear you lol.

Idiot......

[Barrie07]

Seems like i opened a can of worms......
How have u guys (if any) managed to activate ur pineal glands

[Dajai]

DMT is thought to exist in many plants. I have never experimented with that particular tryptamine but I would not encourage it, from what I have read. The research is fascinating though.

The first step to opening the Third Eye is through awareness. Concentrating on an area of your body will encourage energy to flow there. Then it is a simple matter of charging that energy with intent: "Open my Third Eye". Though I have always preferred more direct affirmations: "My Third Eye Opens". Then there's less trying and more doing.

Simples. ;)

[Jarhog]

The info on the substance you are talking about can be found on many other sites from a muggle point of view so just use your search engine. If you are unsure how to adapt it to magick don't try it. Seek out a professional that can help you in an environment where it is legal.

I think that using our own inborn glandular system is a valid topic that needs to be explored on this forum. It is not illegal to do so as far as I know. I have done some research over the last few days and now understand the fears and dangers that the present world legal climate has exposed the operators of all forums to no matter what the main topic of that forum is. There are possible legal consequences for even giving the specifics of the threats in a public forum like this. I will not name any substance whether legal or not that could be a key word that would draw any attention. I would suggest that everyone else do the same.

In some of my workings I have achieved a visionary state just through the ritual working and meditation but I still don't know the mechanism for this. I have tried to repeat the rituals but have come no where near what the original ritual achieved. Could this be because of the planetary forces being different? Could it be that the intent was not as strong the next time? Any opinions on that?

[Twilight Siren]

back on subject . . where people were discussing a legitimate question and not just belittling and insulting each other . . . .

there's actually a great thread for this on another site, and it discusses (among other aspects of chakras) how the third eye is no longer thought to be linkked to the pineal gland, but actually the pituitary (which I think affects the pineal. I got a low B on my Endocrine System quiz though, and could be wrong).

Once I relocate the particular thread I speak of, I will post the link here for you.

For now though, I hope this will help:

They say that an open chakra can help you develop the qualities associated with that chakra, but it's also been theorized that you can go about it the opposite way . . Develop yourself (through mindful effort and self-observation) the qualities associated with that chakra and it will thereby make it much easier to open or activate that chakra. Anyways, it's worth a try.

[Vir Sapiens]

There was a fascinating study done on this in the 90's by the University of New Mexico. They injected the subjects with carefully controlled doses of DMT and it resulted in the subjects experiencing a perceived "alien reality". Some of the descriptions are eerily similar, though many differ greatly on details. It should be noted that there are more efficient substances to use that are virtual analogs both in chemical structure and in function. Also of interesting note, though the substance is classified as an illegal narcotic in most developed countries, the United States has allowed certain small religious groups to utilize it legally in the practice of their religion. I'm sure if you wanted to spend the cash on a lawyer you could use those precedents to get a similar order for your own personal use if you are dead set on experimenting.

With any plant or substance like this, particularly one that interacts with the brain's visual centers, caution is the word of the day. It is virtually impossible to accurately dose oneself with street quality substances. The chemical composition can vary from chemist to chemist and the concentrations can vary from plant to plant. Unless you have a Masters in Biochemistry and all the proper laboratory equipment necessary to extract and produce pharmaceutically pure DMT I wouldn't mess with it. You'll never be able to get a consistency of experience which will be of any use to you in your magical studies. Even purely plant based concoctions rely on years of experience passed down from shaman to shaman in order to create the proper concentration of active ingredients in the teas and herbal brews they utilize. This sort of knowledge is the work of a lifetime and not something that one simply jumps into with a recipe.

If you really want to experiment with DMT and opening up your perceptions then save the money and travel to Central or South America and find a shaman who will guide you on your path to awareness. It is infinitely better than ending up in the hospital because whatever slag you got your DMT from decided to push his profit margin by cutting it with something horrid. The trip is usually cheaper too.

[NewAeon93]

I know drug talk isn't wanted here so I'll just say for the interested:
Check out the book "DMT- The Spirit Molecule" by Dr. Rick Strassman, it details the results of the university experiment discussed above.

[Eli.M.]

The pineal gland excretes DMT when your born and when you die, or as the result of a near death experiance. I think it also releases in your sleep causing you to dream.. I don't really remember. But the defense mechanisms controlling your pineal gland get passed in periods of extreme stress, concentration ect, like shamanic rituals or the example of a near death experiance. DMT is a relatively easy tryptamine to manufacture compared to things like LSD ... and not exactly hard to find either.

[Norin]

I think a picture's worth a lot of words, so take a look (http://i41.tinypic.com/6nqpsj.jpg) :D

Personal experience, smoked, pure crystal form. The White Light was the Source of all life, of this and all other universes, somehow linked to the Big Bang, but also very real even in the present moment, giving us all the life force we need to live. This was very revealing in a way, since if the One Source was giving life to my enemies and various things I may not like, then how "enemies" can they really be, beyond their surface ?

In essence we all come from the same place, and so.. etc etc. Short trip duration, massive download to understand and absorb :)

Sadly, the powers-that-be have banned this along with many other eye-openers out there (for reasons that I'm sure are 100% altruistic and pure :D ) and so the best way to study these things at length is indeed a travel to the Amazon. Over there many good things are legal, and also there are shamans with a lot of experience, who know what they're doing. I would recommend Peru, the Iquitos area. I plan to go there myself, as soon as my funds allow.

Other than that I wouldn't consider it dangerous at all, provided what you have is really the substance itself, and not some lookalike cut with strange chemicals. If smoking, do keep in mind that the crystals are very harsh on the lungs, not a pleasant ride from that point of view.

Enjoy.

[Apotheodaimon]

San Pedro cactus will be your legal DMT.

The THOH vibration should be nasal and resonate in the cranium. Try pronouncing it as "nnnnnnnzzzzzzzzooooooooooooozzzzzzzzzzzzzzznnnnnnn nn" in the register of the key of E. Migraines are not uncommon.

That should serve to guide you further on your path.