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EtuMalku
01-11-2009, 01:23 AM
The word Lucifer is found in only one place in the Bible -- Isaiah 14:12 -- but only in the King James and related versions: "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! . . ." The New Revised Standard Version translates the same passage as "How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star, Son of Dawn!" In other translations we find: "O shining star of the dawn!" (Moffatt) or "O morning-star, son of the dawn!" (Hebrew Bible). The King James Version is based on the Vulgate, the Latin translation of Jerome. Jerome translated the Hebrew helel (bright or brilliant one) as "lucifer," which was a reasonable Latin equivalent. And yet it is this lucifer, the bright one or lightbearer, that came to be understood by so many as the name for Satan, Lord of Darkness.

Lucifer is not an Adversary as the word Satan (Shaiten) describes
Lucifer is the 'Bringer of Light' in other words Lux Lucis (Lucifer) is gnosis, truth and Divine knowledge.
Lucifer makes His debut in the Testaments as the Serpent in the Garden of Eden pointing out to Eve that God is a liar and you will not die if you eat of the fruit of knowledge, which she did and did not die.
Lucifer brought us the Truth and our Free Will, shows us the way to either be One with God or to be a God ourself

Lucifer est lux lucis

Lucifer is the god of progress and intellectual inquiry, not only the divine inspiration behind the spiritual enlightenment of the Gnostic and the heretic and the lover of God in all his/her forms.
Through Lucifer's spirit humanity first climbed down from the trees and has represented the flow of progress ever since.

But Lucifer may be more than a metaphor for rebellion, enlightenment and advancement - as the pure creative and motive light, Lucifer may actually be the key to life itself . . .

The DNA within the nuclei of all cells of living creatures contains biophotons or ultra-weak proton emissions - in other words, light!
A dynamic web of light constantly released and absorbed by the DNA connects cells, tissues and organs and serve as the organism's main communication network.

Lucifer is on the move inside you and me, chattering between cell and cell, rousing the cohorts of the life-force, keeping us alive and wonderful. Every man and woman is a star - and now we know we have our own inner light.


As some of you that know something of Luciferianism might see, my views are not typical of many Luciferic Orders. The implementation of the Archetype and personification of Lucifer is not important

Thank you for listening
EM

Lady Dunsany
01-11-2009, 06:43 AM
I was hoping you would post something on this subject. I have just started reading about this as I have a friend who is a Luciferian. I found your post very informative and I hope to hear more. I myself am not a typical follower on my path either Thank You for sharing.

EtuMalku
01-12-2009, 01:13 AM
It is my pleasure to post and discuss on this forum

Skeptismo118
01-12-2009, 03:43 PM
While largely untouched by most contemporary self-described "Luciferians" some familiarity with the Church Fathers, especially Origen and the really axial thinker of the early church Augustine of Hippo is nearly indispensable for understanding the development of "Lucifer" out of Hebrew an early Christian mythology.

Odin
01-12-2009, 03:49 PM
it was a good read as much as a eye opener !

Great American Desert
01-15-2009, 10:43 PM
Let's not forget the importance of the planet Venus in all of this. Venus - whose presence is seen at dawn as Phosphoros and at dusk as Hesperos, was the planet that announced the coming of the Sun. This is allegorical; just as Venus, the Morning Star, appears to herald the coming light of day, so too does Lucifer (Lux Ferous, the bearer or bringer of light) herald the light of salvation, or Gnosis.

As such, Lucifer is the Lord of Twilight. He is not the light himself - in my Gnostic oriented view Sophia is the light - but he is the key that opens the way to the light.

The Ophitic view of the Serpent of Eden fits in ideally with the concept of Lucifer. The Serpent acted as Lucifer, enticing the curious to pursue hidden knowledge and shatter any imposed ignorance. Even if there is no historical connection between the words themselves, the concepts stand soundly and flawlessly represent the plight of humanity.

Lady Dunsany
01-18-2009, 11:28 AM
I am grateful to you and EtuMalku for sharing this. Up till recently I new absolutely nothing about Luciferism. I became interested not too long ago as a teacher of mine and friend is one. Your posts have such beauty in them and I can not wait to learn more. Thank You.

Y Ddraig Goch
01-25-2009, 03:36 PM
i realy dont understand why lucifer is mistaken for satan. as far as i know the word satan comes from the name of an ancient egyptian god named Sokar. as many would have known Sokar as minor funeral god, i have read that Sokar was the ruler in that part of the underworld which is equal to christianity's hell. his domain is named Ne'tu. this thematic of sokar is also used in the Stargate series if anyone has watched them knows what am i talking about. i have read about sokar some time before i watched SG-1 so i am not putting any fiction here. my source of that information could be wrong. also an interesting fact to mention is that the word HELL comes from norse mythology. goddess of the underworld Hel which resides in the realm with same name. also the realm Hel is a place of eternal flames where the souls of the unworthy go after they die. so there could be many mistakes made in the past regarding Lucifer, Hell and Satan.

EtuMalku
01-25-2009, 04:04 PM
Kemetically speaking I see Satan aligning more with Set, who would be the 'adversary' of Osiris. Sethians are associated closer to Satan from what I know.

Satan is a personification of the Judaic word al-satan (who borrowed it from the Persians' Shaiten) meaning adversary. The word is used more as a descriptive noun or pronoun. A fallen tree preventing a husband from getting to his injured wife would be considered a tree of shaiten, more or less.
Shaiten did not become Satan until much later where Jewish sects / tribes such as the Essenes began referring to anyone not an Essene as a Shaiten. Still further the Roman Christian church decided it was time to personify shaiten into Satan and have Him become the scapegoat for all evil in the Christian world.

Harlock
02-18-2009, 08:13 PM
"the enemy is everywhere" so technicly that does make sense

chronazon
02-19-2009, 10:47 AM
Kemetically speaking I see Satan aligning more with Set, who would be the 'adversary' of Osiris. Sethians are associated closer to Satan from what I know.

Satan is a personification of the Judaic word al-satan (who borrowed it from the Persians' Shaiten) meaning adversary. The word is used more as a descriptive noun or pronoun. A fallen tree preventing a husband from getting to his injured wife would be considered a tree of shaiten, more or less.
Shaiten did not become Satan until much later where Jewish sects / tribes such as the Essenes began referring to anyone not an Essene as a Shaiten. Still further the Roman Christian church decided it was time to personify shaiten into Satan and have Him become the scapegoat for all evil in the Christian world.

satan has more to do with opiates, and christianity is a white opiate and set more to do with channelling than being an enemy of the egyptian god of gardening osiris,
lucifer to me seems to have more to do with the elesunian/bacchic mysteries and baphomet if he is called son of the morning
wrong!

chanel
05-19-2009, 04:35 PM
what about christians and the devil? very interesting hmmm:cool:

Kaotik
12-14-2009, 05:23 AM
Kemetically speaking I see Satan aligning more with Set, who would be the 'adversary' of Osiris. Sethians are associated closer to Satan from what I know.

Satan is a personification of the Judaic word al-satan (who borrowed it from the Persians' Shaiten) meaning adversary. The word is used more as a descriptive noun or pronoun. A fallen tree preventing a husband from getting to his injured wife would be considered a tree of shaiten, more or less.
Shaiten did not become Satan until much later where Jewish sects / tribes such as the Essenes began referring to anyone not an Essene as a Shaiten. Still further the Roman Christian church decided it was time to personify shaiten into Satan and have Him become the scapegoat for all evil in the Christian world.
I think I read on the temple of set's site that the jews in Egypt took the God Set and made Set-hen or Satan from it.

Kain
08-25-2010, 08:01 PM
I didnt read all the posts, but only the first one and I have these comments:

1. Bible's Lucifer (The One mentioned in Isaiah, Ezekiel and Revelation) is NOT a rebel. He is not an angel who wanted freedom. He didnt just wish to dethrone God... He wished to dethrone God and be God Himself though He already had enough power and as we read in Revelation Alpha, He was the strongest and wisest Archangel of them all. But He wanted even more.... It was then that He created the first deadly sin of the world... "Ambition". So He actually is an adversary.

2. There is a problem here... You said that you believe Lucifer is the Serpent of Eden but He is not Satan right? This means you believe He is not the Great Dragon of Revelation... Well, He is. John says clairly that the Great Dragon is the Ancient Serpent, Satan, Devil and the He who deceived the whole universe. So, you cannot claim Lucifer is the Ancient Serpent and Satan is not... If you believe Lucifer is not Satan then you have to believe that He is not the Ancient Serpent neither, because the Ancient Serpent IS ACTUALLY THE DEVIL.

You may believe that the Devil did good by giving the knowledge of Good and Evil to humans, but in fact He did it just to rule over humans and make them turn against God, their Creator and get away from Him.

3. I'm sure you actually dont believe in the Bible and you just use these as symbols. Am I right? Because thats what everyone does and then claims he is a Luciferian / Satanist. Hope you are not one of these atheists of course...

PlagueJester
11-02-2010, 09:04 AM
Hey hey! I know this is kinda an old topic to be commenting on, but as I'm new and just read it, I feel compelled to so so anyway.

For some reason, I don't see your post (OP) as something to "agree with" or "disagree with," as some others seem to do. It was your POV. I hardly see how I can say "that isn't your POV," like I know what you're thinking.

Anyway, I thought it was a great read, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I find your ability to write quite impressive.