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devakxes
04-29-2010, 10:08 PM
What is everyone's thoughts on the left hand path and the right hand path?
What is everyone's thoughts on the concept of breaking the duality of them both?
What if someone was to ''dissolve'' into The All but then ascend into Godhood?

EtuMalku
04-30-2010, 12:00 AM
Could you elaborate on these two questions please? I'm not sure I understand what you are asking.

What is everyone's thoughts on the concept of breaking the duality of them both?
What if someone was to ''dissolve'' into The All but then ascend into Godhood?

devakxes
04-30-2010, 12:56 AM
The ultimate goal of the left hand path is godhood. The ultimate goal of the right hand path is to dissolve one's soul into the All or God.

Now. It has been said they both lead to the same place. I'm guessing this is because someone has broken the duality of them. Similar to the concept of breaking the duality of gender specific energies/qualities or light and dark, night and day. There is always some kind of logic that transcends both and unites them. How do you unite and transcend these?

It is similar to the concept of draining one's blood into the cup of babalon. Once she drinks from the cup, you are reborn and dissolved into the All/Nuit. However in a lot of LHP texts they say you drink from the cup. So instead of you becoming all, all becomes you. You become a god.

So say you dissolved into the All. What would happen if you ''poured your blood'' into the cup and then afterward, drank yourself? These are all symbolic of course... I hope this made sense.

EtuMalku
04-30-2010, 01:09 PM
Thank you for the elaboration;

As I see it, the RHP seeks atonement with the natural ordering of the Universe (the divine as many call it).

The LHP seeks, as you put it, to Godhead. In some ways this is correct but in other ways incomplete.

For example, Thelemic philosophy and goal is to awaken the Daemon inside you and become One with it. This is still rendering yourself towards atonement of the natural ordering of the Universe.

A true LHP goal is to Become outside of this natural ordering, to be of isolate intelligence and no longer a part of the Creation but rather a Creator.


EM

devakxes
04-30-2010, 06:22 PM
Isn't part of the process of becoming a God by uniting with one's Higher Self?
Surely the Ego isn't destroyed. But rather exalted and perfected through uniting it with the higher self.

EtuMalku
04-30-2010, 10:50 PM
The Temple of Set defines the LHP as:
The LHP involves the conscious attempt to preserve and strengthen one's isolate, psychecentric existence against the objective universe while apprehending, comprehending, and influencing a varying number of subjective universes.

Many individuals and organizations think they are on a LHP but in reality are not.

Followers of the RHP are those whose stated goal is egocentric merger with the objective universe (which they confuse with the Universe as a whole) . . . This is theoretically nirvana of the Buddhist, the Jainist, and the Hindu: the "salvation" of the Christian.

The dilemma, of course, lies in the problem of "destroying" the ego and then continuing to prance about the Earth thinking, talking, writing, and acting as an obviously still-egocentric being who is just obviously NOT One with the objective universe.

The attainment of Magus finds either the individual falling back into psychecentrism, or into supreme initiatory success.


EM

devakxes
05-07-2010, 12:34 PM
The dilemma, of course, lies in the problem of "destroying" the ego and then continuing to prance about the Earth thinking, talking, writing, and acting as an obviously still-egocentric being who is just obviously NOT One with the objective universe.

The attainment of Magus finds either the individual falling back into psychecentrism, or into supreme initiatory success.

That separation of the ego/mind from the universe was how I viewed ''godhood''. You become a force which shapes the universe instead of the universe shaping yourself. Some may say that humanity is already separated, to a degree I can say yes but I think they only have the potential to separate and devour the universe.

Could you explain the attainment of Magus more thoroughly?

Also wanted to state - so the attainment of one's higher self... one's ''inner demon'' ... is not something the temple of set seeks then?