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devakxes
08-17-2010, 10:48 PM
General Definition of Satanism

By Geifodd ap Pwyll


Satanism is a religion in which the individual is raised to personal godhood, free from enslavement to any other god or gods. This is a question not only of power, but also of ethics, morality, and psychological maturity. It is a pathway to metaphysical growth, but many mistake it as an excuse for egoistic irresponsibility. Those who make this mistake are usually the so-called "Satanists" who run around, professing their uncompromising hatred for Christians and Christianity, seemingly without any rational or logical basis of thought.

By analyzing conventional religions according to their basic philosophical principles, Satanists tend to view these religions as representing the primitive longing of man to feel at "one" with the "Universal harmony" he perceives about him. It is believed that the problem arises from the phenomenon of human consciousness -- the ability to perceive and to assign meaning to thoughts and things -- and the way in which different metaphysical doctrines have approached this phenomenon throughout the centuries. Some were frightened by this phenomenon, feeling as if they were "separate" from the "natural order" of things, or that humankind had somehow "fallen from grace" and had to be "saved" or "re-included" into said order. This primitive ideology, which is found in many conventional religions, and that is generally termed the Right Hand Path, has inspired its adherents throughout the ages to destroy all and any phenomena or individuals who frustrated the so called "natural way of things" -- never realizing that Nature itself is chaotic and ever-changing.

Others, however, interpreted the feature of human consciousness not as evidence of a separation from Nature, but as evidence that Nature itself is chaotic and disordered. These individuals saw fit to exalt this state of uniqueness and individuality and, with knowledge and appreciation of its power, worked to adapt the world to themselves, rather than the other way around. This ideology, the one to which Satanists adhere, is known as the Left Hand Path. Satanists reject the notion of conformity to some perceived rule of existence or external absolute, believing that no such absolute exists. They recognize that life itself is a continual series of changes and mutations, and they celebrate the ultimate catalyst for transformation: the Self as a unique entity unlike anything else in existence. The Satanist rejects the imaginary "natural order" and worships instead the Self, knowing that Nature itself is defined -- and constantly re-defined -- by the individual beings of which it is composed.

Like Satan, the Satanist takes the place of God over his own life, an act which requires a great deal of ethical and psychological maturity. Instead of losing our individuality and independence to some divine universal "oneness," we choose to maintain, glorify, and expand that unique individuality to its furthest extent. This, the exaltation and evolution of the individual psyche, is a metaphysical process that Satanists refer to as Xeper ("KHEF-er"), an ancient Egyptian word which means "to Come Into Being." Xeper is the only "dogma" that is recognized in Satanism; other than this, all other aspects of Satanism -- such as beliefs and interpretations of Satan, the afterlife, etc. -- are left entirely to the discretion and decision of the individual practitioner. Hence why some Satanists would describe themselves as theistic, believing in a literal metaphysical entity named Satan or the Prince of Darkness, and others would describe themselves as atheistic, interpreting Satan as nothing more than a symbol or rich literary figure. Each individual Satanist determines his or her own methodology toward the evolution of their awareness (Xeper) according to their own personal experience, as Xeper is necessarily a personal and internal experience that cannot be taught, only learned. As Satanism is necessarily a self-based religion, it rejects all fixed ideologies and strives rather toward an atmosphere of "best possible premises" which are always subject to intelligent criticism, experimentation, and alteration.

There are a few deranged souls out there who call themselves "Satanists" and who yet fall short of the true definition of Satanism. This is not the fault of Satanism or of Satanists, but of those individuals who attempt to "jump on the bandwagon" without really understanding the intensely metaphysical concepts of this spiritual path.

Aradia
08-17-2010, 11:44 PM
Interesting. Thank you for this. :)

EtuMalku
08-18-2010, 12:10 AM
Perhaps Theistic Satanism or Luciferianism, or even a brief overview of the Left Hand Path, but certainly not all of Satanism in any respect.

Who exactly is this Geifodd anyway?

EM

devakxes
08-18-2010, 01:09 AM
@ Etumalku - The guy who wrote this article was from The Temple of Set. This was before The Temple considered Satan to be actually Set.

I got this off of Diane Vera's Theistic Satanist website. It is supposed to show the root core of satanism - the Self - which results in a sort of left hand path... Just as there are many ways to achieve the Right Hand Path gnosis of ''one with the universe''... the Left Hand Path has many ways to achieve the gnosis of personal godhood. Some like Lavey Satanists need only to read the Satanic Bible while others such as The Temple of Set or Luciferians tend to follow magickal practices which exalt the mind/soul to godhood and achieve isolate consciousness.

I like the very ending of this. If I would extend the concept that the person needs extreme measures to achieve this gnosis - I wonder if they would do better doing the opposite. So for example, the diabolists may need to actually become christian in order to achieve it or the hardcore extremist abrahamic faiths may need to follow the Left Hand Path.

Kain
09-04-2010, 02:25 AM
This article reminds me of the words of this cartoon-Laveyan in a video:

"That's stupid... Satanism has nothing to do with Satan!"

Kain
09-04-2010, 09:56 PM
That depends on which particular Satan you are refering to......there are millions of Satans out there.

So, where is it you want to go with your statement? Or, more specifically, your choise of another mans word?

What is your opinion? In your own words?


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There are no many "Satans". What's the point of taking the name of the Evil Angel of the Bible and giving it to the fantastic idol you worship or to your atheistic symbol?

For example. Why LaVeyans call themselves "Satanists"? They don't worship Satan and the symbol they are using does not represent Satan (though they say it does) so what's the point of calling themselves "Satanists"? And I answer the question... Just to provoke. And then they call Christians hypocrites.

No insult intended. I'm just trying to prove something not to argue.

EtuMalku
09-04-2010, 10:45 PM
devakxes: I'm sorry for not replying earlier.
Yes, I looked into this and thank you for enlightening me.

EM


@ Etumalku - The guy who wrote this article was from The Temple of Set. This was before The Temple considered Satan to be actually Set.

I got this off of Diane Vera's Theistic Satanist website. It is supposed to show the root core of satanism - the Self - which results in a sort of left hand path... Just as there are many ways to achieve the Right Hand Path gnosis of ''one with the universe''... the Left Hand Path has many ways to achieve the gnosis of personal godhood. Some like Lavey Satanists need only to read the Satanic Bible while others such as The Temple of Set or Luciferians tend to follow magickal practices which exalt the mind/soul to godhood and achieve isolate consciousness.

I like the very ending of this. If I would extend the concept that the person needs extreme measures to achieve this gnosis - I wonder if they would do better doing the opposite. So for example, the diabolists may need to actually become christian in order to achieve it or the hardcore extremist abrahamic faiths may need to follow the Left Hand Path.

Light
09-04-2010, 11:24 PM
There are no many "Satans". What's the point of taking the name of the Evil Angel of the Bible and giving it to the fantastic idol you worship or to your atheistic symbol?

For example. Why LaVeyans call themselves "Satanists"? They don't worship Satan and the symbol they are using does not represent Satan (though they say it does) so what's the point of calling themselves "Satanists"? And I answer the question... Just to provoke. And then they call Christians hypocrites.

No insult intended. I'm just trying to prove something not to argue.


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What's the point of this then ??. Why not instead give your own personal/subjective opinion about how you define satanism , or if you find this article incomplete or wrong, maybe you could share it with us....or maybe you did already??
Sorry, I don't understand what point you're trying to prove...From what I understand Satanism is a concept and everyone has a subjective view about it...The more people share their view points, the more we learn about each other and the subject that is being discussed. We can choose to take it on board, if we find it true for ourselves or we can choose not to, if we find it not true for us...

Kain
09-05-2010, 12:30 AM
Satan is the Archangel of the Archangels of Evil in the Bible. Since someone doesn't worship Evil and doesn't believe in Satan's existance then why use the term "Satanist" to describe himself? I mean, LaVeyans claim Satan is a symbol. Why did they use Satan to be their symbol? We all know Satan is the represenation of Evil in the Bible, so since they claim they are not Evil and they don't worship Satan then why use Satan as a symbol?

And we have Theistic Satanists from the other side, who claim that Satan has nothing to do with Satan of the Bible. Then why they give this name to the God they worship? "Satan" is used as a name only in the Bible.

So if you don't believe in Satan of the Bible then why use this name for your symbol or God (idol)?

This article is not wrong. The ideas of all these "Satanic" organizations are wrong because they use the term "Satanists" just to provoke and make people interrested to join their organization. They are just deceiving people.

We all know the real Satanists are the ones I talked about. The real Devil Worshippers who believe in the original and true represantation of Satan... The Devil of the Bible.


PS. In case you didn't notice I made one more post in my topic about Diabolists. I explained why this cult I talked about might have chosen the name "Brotherhood of 12 Angels".

That's all from me for now...

Light
09-05-2010, 03:11 AM
No they are not the true satanists, they can call them self satanists but they have not exclusive rights in the term. They are the Devil Worshippers or Diabolists and thats what they are called by competent people.

This are from my point of view.

Best regards!


Very interesting the different views, we can have about the same subject.
I tend to agree with Soddex and espesially the last quote. It's good to hear though from different angles, as it gives the opportunity to reflect more on the issues surrounding Satanism...:)

Kain
09-07-2010, 09:39 PM
But I don't get it... So if I worship an idol of my imagination and give the name "Satan" to it, it means I am a Satanist?

Just think that "Satan" is used as a name ONLY IN THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE. (it is used by Judaism and Muslim too, but not as a name... They say "The Satan" not "Satan") Isn't it obvious that the real Satanists are the ones who worship Satan of the Bible? The Bible is the only place you can find "Satan" as a name. Also, Diabolists exist for centuries. Other Satanists do not exist more than 60 years.

How can someone say that the real Satanists are not the ones that worship the original "Devil" but the ones who give their own defination of Devil that's not even written anywhere and there was nobody doing that in the past (before the 20th century)?

Just think. The first ones who used the name "Satanism" are the Diabolists. The original Satan is the one of the Bible (I'm not saying He is the only "Devil" that exists because most people want to have their own "special" views in everything). Also, all these "Theistic Satanists" claim they believe in Satan / Devil. So they believe in the Slander (because that's what "Devil" means.). So how can they say that Satanism is not about evil and how can they claim that the ones who worship the original Devil and love evil are not real Satanists but they are?

That's stupid...

"We believe in Satan / Devil we see in the Bible, but we don't believe what the Bible says about Him. And generally we don't believe in the Bible. We also exist since 1990, but we are the real Satanists and you guys who believe in the Bible and worship the Biblical Satan / Devil and exist for thousands of years and were the first ones who used the term "Satanism, you are not real... Only we are real Satanists."

Kain
09-09-2010, 01:38 AM
The God is not evil. That's stupid. The fact that He doesn't want humans to do whatever they wish and destroy every value and rule does not mean He is evil.

The God wanted humans to be good, not hurt each other and always do the right thing, but Apollyon tempts humans so God was forced to do something. Does this mean He is evil? Is the police that executes a criminal evil?

It's just how it is. The fact that Apollyon doesn't kill anyone directly doesn't mean He is not a "Murderer" (that's how Jesus called Him).

I am sure you all know what is a bad thing and what is a good thing though you might claim that you don't believe in Good and Evil. We all know that helping someone is a good thing, but killing someone is a bad thing.


About the term. Listen, isn't it obvious that the real Satanists are the original ones that believe in the original Devil? Tell me, what makes you thinking that someone is a real Satanist? How do you know if he is or not and why? If I start claiming that I believe in a dark but good Lord that I name "Satan" I am a Satanist?

Kain
09-09-2010, 02:39 AM
"Devil" means "Slander" so a Satanist has to worship the Slander right? And the philosophy of Satan is about Evil because the original and real concept of Satan is the fact that He is the enemy of the good God, the tempter of man, the One who wished to dethrone His Father to steal His throne and the first entity to sin.

God from the other side does NOT allow slavery, child abuse etc. Apollyon makes people do these actions and God just waits for the right moment to punish people for these actions. And don't tell me He is a murderer for punishing them, because following this logic the police is also a murderer for executing a criminal.

BlackShroud
12-30-2010, 04:03 PM
This article reminds me of the words of this cartoon-Laveyan in a video:

"That's stupid... Satanism has nothing to do with Satan!"

I have been looking for that video for ages now. Do you know if it's still up anywhere?

devakxes
01-11-2011, 09:15 PM
Did I ever mention that I am really happy that Kain is gone? Thanks to whoever removed him!

theblackbee
03-23-2011, 06:41 AM
Satan is the Archangel of the Archangels of Evil in the Bible. Since someone doesn't worship Evil and doesn't believe in Satan's existance then why use the term "Satanist" to describe himself? I mean, LaVeyans claim Satan is a symbol. Why did they use Satan to be their symbol? We all know Satan is the represenation of Evil in the Bible, so since they claim they are not Evil and they don't worship Satan then why use Satan as a symbol?

And we have Theistic Satanists from the other side, who claim that Satan has nothing to do with Satan of the Bible. Then why they give this name to the God they worship? "Satan" is used as a name only in the Bible.

So if you don't believe in Satan of the Bible then why use this name for your symbol or God (idol)?

This article is not wrong. The ideas of all these "Satanic" organizations are wrong because they use the term "Satanists" just to provoke and make people interrested to join their organization. They are just deceiving people.

We all know the real Satanists are the ones I talked about. The real Devil Worshippers who believe in the original and true represantation of Satan... The Devil of the Bible.


PS. In case you didn't notice I made one more post in my topic about Diabolists. I explained why this cult I talked about might have chosen the name "Brotherhood of 12 Angels".

That's all from me for now...

Your idiocy amuses me.


LaVeyans used Satan as their symbol because He represents indulgence - going against the 10 great bondages in order to achieve self-gratification. They also use Satan to blaspheme the vicious hoax of Christianity.


Satan does not embody evil, otherwise, people who invoke Him would end up dead and His followers drowning in misery, agony and negative chaos.


As Satanists, we choose to raise ourselves to a higher level of existence than that of the subhuman Christian sheep flock. With this, we have attained a greater power of understanding, comprehension and consciousness.
We can, therefore, see beyond the lies, slander, fantasy and BS Christianity constantly feeds its sheep everyday and witness the Eternal and Unending Infinite Truth - Satan.


It is not only in the Buy-bull that Satan/Lucifer appears in.
Being the true creator God of humanity, he appears as Enki, Ea, Odin, Ptah and various other forms.
"Satan" in Sanskrit (the abecedarical system Hebrew is blatantly derived from) means "Eternal and Unending Infinite Truth".
"Satya" = truth
"An" = infinite
Satan = the truth infinite


There is no such thing as a Satanist - theistic or not - that believes in the BS of the buy-bull, knowing that it is clearly a rip-off of Pagan documents predating it by thousands of years.


Satan does not advocate unnecessary evil.
Heck, "evil" isn't even a word used by the intellectually-liberated and logical.


No one worships evil.
People who do are called "reverse xians" and "stupid".
:)

theblackbee
03-23-2011, 06:46 AM
Did I ever mention that I am really happy that Kain is gone? Thanks to whoever removed him!

He was, apparently, a Reptilian.
:3
TEEHEE

AVE LUCIFER!
\m/

devakxes
03-23-2011, 05:11 PM
As Satanists, we choose to raise ourselves to a higher level of existence than that of the subhuman Christian sheep flock. With this, we have attained a greater power of understanding, comprehension and consciousness.
We can, therefore, see beyond the lies, slander, fantasy and BS Christianity constantly feeds its sheep everyday and witness the Eternal and Unending Infinite Truth - Satan.


It is not only in the Buy-bull that Satan/Lucifer appears in.
Being the true creator God of humanity, he appears as Enki, Ea, Odin, Ptah and various other forms.
"Satan" in Sanskrit (the abecedarical system Hebrew is blatantly derived from) means "Eternal and Unending Infinite Truth".
"Satya" = truth
"An" = infinite
Satan = the truth infinite

That last part was beautiful on the Satan in Sanskrit. That makes me appreciate that name more. I normally call The Prince of Darkness, Lucifer because it doesn't hold the negative connotations of ''Satan.'' That sort of expanded my mind. Thank you.

Also, you are now one of my favorite people in reference to the whole ''subhuman Christian sheep flock.''