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theblackbee
03-20-2011, 05:49 PM
So, I just quite recently become a Luciferian.

I abandoned the JoS when they banned me just because I suggested that their Exposing Christianity (http://www.exposingchristianity.com/) website desperately needed a makeover as it started to look like Jesus-Is-Savior.com (http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/).
This showed just how shallow their thinking is.

Anyways, I posted this thread in the hope that I might find a Theistic Luciferian group online that I could keep regular communication with, because I don't feel so comfortable with the idea of solitary practice.

I have recently found the following:
+Ordinis Luciferi Ferrum (http://www.luciferiansword.com/), though it's a generally Atheistic/Symbolic group.
+The Order of Phosphorus (http://www.theorderofphosphorus.com/) - yet another Atheistic group. It upsets me to find just how many there considering how much Lucifer's been a part of their lives.
+The Luciferian Research Group (http://luciferianresearch.ning.com/), though, has warmly welcomed me. It is a society of various Occult Groups, both Theistic and Atheistic, and requires application to enter (which is rather logical).

If there's any other link that someone can prescribe, I, and many other dabbling Theistic Luciferians, would greatly appreciate it.

AVE LUCIFER ET TOUT LE DIEUX DE DUAT!
\m/

devakxes
03-20-2011, 08:08 PM
Not to burst your bubble dear, but Luciferianism IS a solitary practice. Sure, there may be group workings and having a group helps keep objectivity as well as bounce ideas back and forth - really though, the focus is on the individual and not on the Whole.

Also, The Order of Phosphorus is not atheistic. Its' members have the choice to believe in the Adversary or not. However, belief in the Adversary doesn't really matter considering that Luciferianism is focused upon the individual.

Order of the Luciferian Sword - Home (http://luciferiansword.com/)

Is generally theistic.

The Temple of Set also believes that The Prince of Darkness is a being. Considering that a God of Consciousness must be in fact, conscious.

theblackbee
03-20-2011, 10:39 PM
Order of the Luciferian Sword - Home (http://luciferiansword.com/) Is generally theistic.

It didn't seem that way to me.

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Care to explain to me, though, why most - if not all - Luciferians continue to adhere to xian mythology?
I don't understand how they continue to do so, when, in their life-long research, they must eventually come across evidences that lead to Jesus being nothing but a rip-off.

I understand, though, that the recurring belief among them is that Jehovah is a tyrant.
I don't understand, however, why they can't see a step further and realize the Jehovah may in fact not be the god of humanity - that true salvation comes from Lucifer.

I guess I'll have to ask them directly.

devakxes
03-21-2011, 01:43 AM
Apparently you didn't end up actually looking at the website then. You shouldn't make accusations when you haven't done your research.

Most Luciferians don't even believe God exists. They use the antinomian symbolism in order to focus on Xeper. I put a post on ''Geifodd's definition of Satanism'' in the spiritual satanism section which explains the Left Hand Path and should answer your questions.

theblackbee
03-21-2011, 05:03 AM
Well, I did check out their definition of Lucifer.
They see Him as a symbol of blah blah and blah.
They didn't really put him under an anthropomorphic light.

Anyways, I'd like to thank you, nonetheless, for making me take a second look at the website.