The Order of Nine Angles

[ThoTh]

The following is an Introduction to Traditional Satanism as practiced and expounded by the Order of Nine Angles (ONA). It was originally hosted on a site called Nasz Dom as a guide to the prospective initiate, but even today, 14 years on, still represents the essence of the ONA as though it were written yesterday. It is an excellent introduction to this particular system, which system is known as 'Hebdomadry' or 'The Seven-Fold Sinister Way'. I have entered it in 3 parts.

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An Introduction to Traditional Satanism
© Anton Long & ONA. 1994eh.
[Part I]

Essentially, the difference between the ONA and other groups which profess to belong to the 'Left Hand Path' or which claim to be Satanic is that the ONA seeks to realistically guide its members along the difficult and dangerous path of self-development, the goal of which is the creation of an entirely new individual. This path is fundamentally a quest for self-excellence and wisdom.

We believe that there is no easy way to real knowledge and insight of the 'Occult' kind - that each individual must walk this path and achieve things for themselves. There are no 'ceremonies', no magickal 'rites', not even any teachings which can provide the individual with genuine wisdom: real wisdom is only and always attained by the personal effort of the individual over many years. It is the result of a synthesis - a development of the dark side and an integration of that aspect of our being thus creating a complete, more evolved individual. Furthermore, the means to this attainment are essentially practical; that is, they involve the individual undergoing certain formative, character-developing experiences 'in the real world' rather than in some pseudo-mystical, pseudo-intellectual 'magickal rite' or sitting at the feet of some pretentious 'master'.

For us, Satanism is a quest involving real personal danger where the individual Initiate undertakes genuine challenges which take them to and beyond their limits: physical, 'mental' and psychic. This quest, in its beginnings, involves the individual in exploring their 'hidden' or 'dark' side - and a part of this is participation in overtly Occult and magickal ceremonies and rites. This beginning - where the new Initiate participates in and later conducts Satanic rituals such as the 'Black Mass' - enables the individual to explore this dark side, to gradually understand it, make it more conscious, and thus control it. An aspect of this making-conscious, is symbolism - such as the 'septenary system' - where various Occult/magickal energies are symbolised in certain ways via a system of correspondences. This symbolism enables the energies dealt with to be objectified and thus consciously understood - this in itself makes possible an integration of the 'dark' side. Thus, there is a synthesis - a dynamic, conscious, moving-forward by the individual: an evolution of personality. Insight is gained. In psychological terms, there is the start of "individuation". This leads to a practical experiencing of the sinister, and thus further personal development, further building of character.

Because of the type of practical experiences, the type of challenges, the individual undertakes, the character so formed is - viewed conventionally - Satanic. There is a defiance of restrictions, a proudness, an experience and then understanding of those things that the religion of the Nazarene frowns upon. In Nietzschean terms, there is a practical living of a "master-morality". The person created via these experiences is the type to inspire a certain terror/awe in the supine majority, weaned as that majority have been by the softness of the Nazarene ethic.

However, this individual has only begun the process. That is, the type of character so described (which results from these early experiences) is not even what we would call an Adept: of the seven stages of this sinister way (or practical alchemy), this practical involvement in the 'Occult' via ceremonies and such things as organizing and running a Satanic group, describe just the first two stages of the way. Furthermore, even this beginning takes some years - and this beginning requires the individual to succeed by their own efforts, by their own will and determination. That is, there are no 'magickal grades' or titles awarded for money or sycophancy [as in all other so-called 'Satanic' groups] - what the individual achieves, in terms of 'magickal grades', they achieve through their own toil, through undergoing the experiences which create the type of character appropriate to a particular stage of the way being followed.

Thus, each stage of this way has associated with it certain tasks, certain experiences, which the individual must undertake by themselves in their own time. It is these and these alone which bring self-insight, mastery, understanding and skill - both 'occult' and personal. All the ONA does, at each stage and for each member, is offer advice - based on experience. That is, the ONA guides its members - it offers a practical system whereby real wisdom may be attained. The onus is on the individual to achieve the goal.
For us, Satanism is all about the creation of proud, strong, characterful, insightful individuals - individuals who have gone beyond the majority and who thus represent a higher type. Genuine Satanic groups do not seek subservient, decadent, weak-willed followers. They seek to create a real elite - almost a new race of beings. Of course, this is not easy - it is really dangerous. Quite often, new Initiates fail because of the difficulty or because they lack the essential desire to succeed. But that is how evolution works - the strong overcome challenges and evolve; the others stay where they are, descend, or are destroyed.

Thus, Satanism is élitist - it does not compromise. It is not really for the majority. The tests, the ordeals, the methods of genuine Satanism are tough and severe because only such things will create the right type of person. These things cannot be made easier, less tough, less dangerous: to do so would destroy the essence of Satanism itself.
After the early stages of the way - which involve direct experience of the sinister both via rituals, magickal groups and undertaking certain sinister tasks - the individual moves on [if I said one such early task involved culling, or Satanic sacrifice, it is possible to appreciate the difficulty and danger]. That is, the Satanic novice gains more understanding of themselves, and the world, by more experiences - they move toward a real individuation, a synthesis of conscious/unconscious, light and sinister. Part of this involves them undertaking a specific task for some months, and it is this task - based on the foundations the previous, early, stages of the way have built - that creates a genuine Adept. This task requires the candidate for Adeptship to live alone, in an isolated area, for three months (usually from Spring Equinox to Summer Solstice) - to talk with no one, to live frugally, with no modern conveniences, no wireless, no modern 'distractions', in a shelter they have built [in recent years, the rules have been relaxed and a tent is allowed]. The aim of this is for them to experience themselves and Nature without any distractions - to really get to know themselves and the natural energies which exist, as those energies are (and not as books, or 'teachers' or theories describe those energies). This, of course, is very difficult. It requires real determination; it requires the individual to face themselves, and all their fears. It is a severe test of character - and of their Satanic resolve. Most individuals who get this far (and that is not very many, over the past few decades) give up after a while - they find excuses to return to the world and its comforts. The classic excuse is the delusion that they have actually 'attained' Adeptship in a few days or perhaps weeks of isolation. And it is a delusion - for it is only by living in such a harsh, isolated way for at least three months that a real Adept is created. Naturally, other so-called Satanic or Left Hand Path groups award a spurious 'Adeptship' to their members/followers: or those members/followers award it to themselves, usually after some boring, pompous, totally meaningless ceremony.

[ThoTh]

The Adept marks the end of the third stage of our seven-fold sinister way - and to reach this stage usually takes three to six years, from Initiation. The task or Grade Ritual which creates the Adept also makes the Adept aware of their unique, personal Destiny - and the fourth stage is all about the Adept seeking to make that Destiny real. This involves a 'return to the world' – the gaining of more experience, the creation of new insights, new skills. This in itself takes some years. The character of the Adept grows and deepens - they achieve the beginning of wisdom. In magickal terms, they gain an understanding of 'Aeonics' – of things like sinister strategy (the use of acausal or supra-personal energies to change societies/civilizations over centuries). Hitherto, most of their experience/learning has been directly personal, relating to their personal development - now, aeonic perspective is gained, it becomes a part of them. That is, they develop still further, again via direct experience - this time, of the acausal itself.

From this, further personal development takes place - they become complete, highly developed individuals who possess skills and an understanding few possess. They fulfill the potential of genius which is latent within them. Thus, they move on to become genuine Masters or Lady Masters/Mistresses. But to reach this stage - the fifth - takes at least ten years (more usual is fifteen to twenty). And there is another stage beyond this.
Thus, it will be seen that our way is difficult and takes a long time. The journey of the initiate toward Adeptship and beyond has no mystery about it - it is actually very simple. Most people could do it - if they possessed the determination. But the majority are just too lazy or too weak. The same applies to most who apply to join Satanic groups or are interested in Satanism – they go for the easy option; they are not prepared to work at their own self-development. They prefer someone to do it for them. And, furthermore, they are not fundamentally prepared to go to and beyond their limits - to really experience the sinister in a practical way; they want to simply play safe, pseudo-Satanic games. Thus, they gravitate toward what we call the sham-Satanic groups, the poseurs, such as the Temple of Set or the Church of Satan - those who like the glamour associated with Satanism but are basically afraid to experience its realness within and external to them. Thus such groups issue - and believe in! – ethical guidelines as they constantly affirm that Satanism does not condone such things as 'human sacrifice'. We, on the contrary, are dark and really sinister - and propound culling. That is, we uphold human culling as beneficial, for both the individual who does the culling (it being a character-building experience) and for our species in general, since culling by its nature removes the worthless and thus improves the stock. Naturally, there are proper ways to choose who is to be culled - each victim is chosen because they have shown themselves to be suitable. They are never chosen at random, as they are never 'innocent'.

Our affirmation of such things as human culling offends other so-called Satanic groups - which to us just re-affirms our assessment of those groups as pretend Satanic groups. Basically, such groups have little or no real understanding of Satanism, as evident, for instance, in the 'religious' approach of the Temple of Set - that is, their claim that Satanism is some sort of religion. To us, the religious attitude and mentality - involving as it does dogma, sycophancy, and subservience by the individual to some self-appointed authority - is the antithesis of Satanism.

In essence, we understand Satanism as the individual quest for self-excellence - to create an entirely new type. This quest involves practical experience - for only real experience creates character. The essence that Satanism leads the individual toward is only ever revealed by practical experience - never by books, never by someone else's 'teachings', never by words. Words themselves can never really describe this essence - they can only point the way, hint at it, and usually serve only to obscure it. In the same way, ceremonies and forms such as rituals are only means - they are a means to experience, to symbolize things and thus apprehend what hitherto has been 'hidden' or unconscious or instinctive. Furthermore, this quest is and must be individual - it means the individual develops, via experiences (and sometimes by learning from mistakes) the strength of character needed. Or they fail - usually by deluding themselves about their real level of attainment, their real level of self-insight, their level of self-control and mastery. The aim is self-control, self-mastery, self-understanding - and then a moving-on to what is beyond even this new 'self'. The aim in not a wallowing in decadence, as it is not the encouragement of instinctive, sinister desires/pleasures as an end in themselves. Such things are means, a beginning - to be used, learned from, and then transcended via mastery of one's self.

For us, Satanism is an individual quest because it aims to produce unique, strong, individuals who do not need the support of groups, of dogma, ethics, a religion, of some pontificating poseur of a 'master'. Thus, the ONA exists to offer advice and guidance - to point the way. The individual must begin the quest, and they and they alone must continue with it.

[ThoTh]

Because of the difficulty of our way, few follow it. In some ways, this is unfortunate - for we believe the way offers anyone the opportunity to advance along the path to genuine Adeptship and beyond. It makes real, or can make real, the potential that most individuals possess - the latent genius within. However, given human nature the small numbers are understandable. What the ONA has done - over the past thirty years or so - is to create a simple practical system which works: which can produce genuine Adepts and Masters/Lady Masters. In effect, we have distilled the essence from thousands of years of conscious understanding, producing an elixir, an 'internal alchemy', which anyone can use.

We describe this system as Satanic, as Sinister because it is. It is a complete rejection of the philosophy/religion of the Nazarene. The philosophy/religion of the Nazarene is anti-life and anti-evolutionary, as Nietzsche, for example, understood. For us, Satan is both an archetype or symbol of our defiance, and some-thing real - the re-presentation of what we describe as 'the acausal'. That is, we understand the 'darker forces' as not simply a part of our psyche (as most modern so-called Satanic groups do) - but as beyond our own, individual psyche. These darker forces - or the acausal - are beyond us, as individuals: they are beyond our conscious control (and even real understanding) until we become a part of them. This does not mean a submission to those forces - but rather an expanding of individual consciousness, a development of individual conscious, to include those forces. This expansion is what marks the genuine Satanic Master/Lady Master.

Other 'Satanic' groups - if they are serious and not just using the Black Arts for their own weak gratification - claim the darker forces are merely an aspect of the psyche, the unconscious or whatever. [Both the Church of Satan and the Temple of Set make this claim.] They do this for two reasons. First, they need to - because they want to feel safe; they want to be able to play their pseudo-Satanic, pseudo-intellectual, games in a mostly urbanized safety, because the members of such groups are not proud, characterful, self-aware individuals: they need the comfort of a group, of a 'leader', of ethical guidelines, of feeling that Satan can be controlled by some meaningless mumbo-jumbo. In effect, the members and leaders of these groups are weak - they lack self-discipline; they lack even the desire for real self-mastery, content as they are to continue with edifying their own weaknesses, with massaging their inflated egos.

Second, such groups and their members do not really understand the Sinister. They have had no real experience of the primal, numinous, supra-personal power of the dark forces - of how that power can destroy individuals. In effect, they have never really 'tapped into' the acausal itself - to what is really sinister. They have never really confronted Satan. They have never really striven to be like Satan - to become one with Him; to merge with the acausal itself; to become a 'nexion' for the acausal, for sinister energies. This becoming-one is what makes, what creates a genuine Satanic Master/Lady Master, as living alone like a hermit creates the Adept. It is dangerous, naturally - but the only means whereby that synthesis which is beyond the synthesis that is individuation can be achieved. There is thus a real, a genuine, transcending beyond 'good' and 'evil'; beyond 'light' and 'dark'. This achievement, as with all real achievements of an Occult kind, derives from practical experience - from a real personal knowledge. Anything else is mere affectation, mere pose.

Other groups have tried to 'intellectualize' Satanism - to take away the real experiences by which genuine Satanic character is formed. Or they wallow in the weaknesses of those addicted to impulses they cannot understand and do not have the strength to control. They have tried and continue to try and make Satanism respectable and safe - just another 'religion'. They fantasize, and play games. They simply do not understand Satanism as a means to create new, more highly evolved, individuals. In reality, the genuine Satanist creates by participating in real life, the dreams, the standards of excellence, the élan which others often aspire to emulate. A genuine Satanist can be like a beast of prey - in real life. They can be and sometimes are, in real life, assassins, warriors, outlaws. The imitation Satanists pretend to be such things - usually by means of some stupid 'ritual'. The Satanist is sinister and dark, in real life - and then they move on, to new experiences, to even higher levels of understanding until eventually they acquire real wisdom, or are destroyed. Whatever, they will have really lived, 'on the edge'; they will really have achieved something with their lives. They will have inspired others. They will in some way by their living have 'presenced' the dark forces on earth. If they survive - their rewards are their achievements and the wisdom that awaits. If they do not survive, at least they will have done something with their lives.
Thus does the ONA way express and exemplify Satanism in action.

- Order of Nine Angles -

[Nix]

Hello ThoTh do you know how to play the Star game?

[ThoTh]

Yes, do you need some help?

[Nix]

Well i remember reading about it in NAOS which i found very impractical.The Star Game was the only part that really interested me.I think I will read it up again but seriously can we direct the course of the aeon by just moving pieces on the board.

[ThoTh]

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[Nix]

Well for me walking 80 miles and living in seclusion for 3 months is impractical but the toughest thing is to find a partner of the opposite sex who is interested in this and with whom you have to play the star game.Have you done all of these?and btw thats a nice explanation of the star game I did not think of it as symphatetic magick before.

[Lady Dunsany]

I find this extremely interesting. The tasks and tests are what one puts on one's self. Am I understanding this right? Would you say in order to perfect the members it would be called survival of the fittest? May I ask what the star game is.

[Nix]

I find this extremely interesting. The tasks and tests are what one puts on one's self. Am I understanding this right? Would you say in order to perfect the members it would be called survival of the fittest? May I ask what the star game is.
Introduction to The Star Game The Order of Nine Angles (http://nineangles.wordpress.com/2008/12/14/introduction-to-the-star-game/)

[ThoTh]

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[ThoTh]

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[Lady Dunsany]

Introduction to The Star Game The Order of Nine Angles (http://nineangles.wordpress.com/2008/12/14/introduction-to-the-star-game/)

This is a game? Is it used as some have used H P Lovecraft's Necromancien as a way to work magick even though it is fiction. I am now curious as how this pertains to ThoTH's organization.

[ThoTh]

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[ThoTh]

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[Nix]

1 thing I like about ONA is that it is not as intellectually braindead as other satanic organizations.However the only thing I haven't embraced with AL's teaching is human culling.It supposedly being a win-win situation for everyone.I just can't swallow that.If you can look past his racist attitude(he being a neo-nazi) and his own brand of social darwinism then I would heartily recommend anyone to atleast read the ONA material.


One underlying reason for the StarGame, ...incidentally coincides with the fascinating discussion being had in the Laveyan Forum concerning artificial human companions.

Seeker's comments about the lack of development of an abstract language for future technology are shared by the ONA - and this baffling chessgame makes more sense when you understand what is intended for it.

While at this stage the game is at best a board game, currently impinging on a 3d and hopefully 4d structure, the next stage of the Star-Game's evolution as intended by the Order is a bio-metric synthesis with the principles of trinary 0/1/0-1+- and some type of virtual reality allowing a user to directly interact with the stargame using their own self as an interface. Obviously this level of the game is years away, and for now the human consciousness still appears to be struggling to understand the concept and role of abstractions in human interaction and installations, which is why the Star Game seems to be a fascinating concept that draws on an unconscious motivation felt by many to develop such an individual and possibly collective understanding of such concepts.

This particular development of the Star Game and the intention for it's model to provide a means of understanding that can give rise to new technology (Acausal based) is closely tied up in AL's wish for man to navigate the stars and colonize space.
Wow this is very interesting.

[Lady Dunsany]

I see. Thank You for clearing that up.

[ThoTh]

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[Nix]

a) because the Tos and Cos insisted the contrawise and AL wanted to provide dialectic
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Whats AL up to these days?I heard he has converted to Islam.Has he managed to create a synthesis of these opposing viewpoints one which contains truths present in both ideologies.I will be interested to know what his views on this is now?

[chronazon]

Which aspects did you find impractical?

the starboard and one can replicate the process using real-life equivalents as pieces, instead of blocks.


ISS,

this sounds like you are on opiates
illumanati building blocks, like how the designer of the periodic table bowed out of letting people like raver klan actually (and they still do) use the periodic table to make their klack.


I felt that i have undergone a secret unspoken initiation into this order.
To walk into grandpa's old mafia resteraunt to find 8 people sitting at a table that I knew were this, locals, not to mention the conversation that took place psychically, I knew that the 9th was not there, and that I was offered this position at some point in a future order. that I may even have to design myself.

there was an 80's movie called netherworld where it said that you can keep the souls of the bad people in the birds

[chronazon]

Anton Long probably converted to Islam because JIhad, or holy war is purely in the mind, and the view of the ONA as criminal or law breakers has only to do with the Maxim printed in the grimoire of Lady Sheba and elsewhere, that "and ye harm none, do what ye will". this doesn't have anything to do with human laws that would get you tied up in court or with pigs at all even.

[ThoTh]

Which opiates?

And why do you say that, chronazon? (Choronzon?) - do you feel there is a fault with the explaination given based on your experience with the Star Game?

[Thrnn]

Judging by the rambling, senseless nature of the his posts it seems 'chorazon' is possibley offering you some opiates :D

[ThoTh]

Possibly friend... possibly. But, since chronazon seems so sure of his stance, I at least owe it to him, and every other initiate of ONA, presuming they are, to speak their mind and listen to them speak it. I am not all-knowing and perhaps I missed something in my own experiments with the Star Game, how it relates to sympathetic magic, how magic relates to consciousness, consciousness to form, form to action, and action to understanding. Or perhaps my hypothesis linking the Star game as potentially useful training for a superimposition of real-world correspondences, is too simplistic an explaination to answer Nix's question.

I think it best not to judge chronazon too quickly and am curious as to his next reply.

ISS,

[ThoTh]

Yes... I knew as much.

[ZeldaFitz]

I knew it was here somewhere.

[ThoTh]

+O+ Feb 01. 112fy.

When the Temple of THEM were asked to condense their knowledge of the fundamental attributes of the ONA into seven core practices; they reluctantly gave the following answer. THESIS. ANTITHESIS. SYNTHESIS. METAMORPHOSIS. AXIS. PRAXIS. SYMBIOSIS.

To this end, our Sister Nexion has written the following -Exceptional- treatise using these seven fundamentals to explain the ONA.

It can be found here.

SEVEN ONA FUNDAMENTALS ONA-NXS:352 (http://onanxs.wordpress.com/2011/02/06/seven-ona-fundamentals/)
However, the Temple has its own approximate.

A brief search in the dictionary will make the use of these terms apparent.

THESIS:

The thesis statement states the thesis or argument of the author in an essay or similar document. The thesis statement says what the author or authors are trying to prove in the document.

You come to us with full hands as raw matter, possessing a clear picture of who you are. Summarize who you are, your dreams, your views, your philosophy, your total feelings and beliefs.

ANTITHESIS:

Antithesis (Greek for “setting oppositeâ€�, from ἀντί â€œagainstâ€� + θέσις “positionâ€�) is a counter-proposition and denotes a direct contrast to the original proposition. In setting the opposite, an individual brings out a contrast in the meaning (e.g., the definition, interpretation, or semantics) by an obvious contrast in the expression.

With deliberate intention, turn yourself inside out and become the opposite of all that you were; if you love, then hate, if you agree, then disagree, if you are peaceful, then be violent.

SYNTHESIS:

synthesis (from the [[ancient India ]] σύνθεσις, σύν “withâ€� and θέσις “placingâ€�) refers to a combination of two or more entities that together form something new.

Through understanding you are both the one and the other, able to be what seem like two different personalities, have two different views, two different lives, two different yous – you learn the living formula for all things.

METAMORPHOSIS:

Metamorphosis is a biological process by which an animal physically develops after birth or hatching, involving a conspicuous and relatively abrupt change in the animal’s body structure through cell growth and differentiation.

with this formula in hand, you possess the secret to change things, decipher the truth from the opposing lies. The ego is set back in its rightful place and the Self emerges to co-exist as a conscious function. So it is that adding white and black to things delivers the world and you from the tyranny of ignorance. You may as well be a different species.

AXIS:

Axis a straight line through a body or figure that satisfies certain conditions

When the veil is lifted and the convenience of being certain is swept away you will find yourself truly tested. All that has gone before will be seen for its importance in leading up to a wordless decision that you must make with yourself .

PRAXIS:

Praxis is the process by which a theory, lesson, or skill is enacted or practiced, embodied and/or realized

To live as one of THEM requires endlessly testing ones resolve by repeating the alchemical formula. Both wondrous and terrible things are borne of the Philosophers Stone.

SYMBIOSIS:

Symbiosis (from Ancient Greek sýn “withâ€� and bÃ*ōsis “living“)[1] is close and often long-term interactions between different biological species.

These are the simple steps to be of the ONA. Learn them, use them and all will become clear.



+O+

[ThoTh]

Whatever people think of the ONA - however smart some may be, or however foolish and gullible - there has always been people around that were affected by it from a little bit, to considerable extremes. The ONA manages to make arguments that go beyond convincing to exacting - they manage to change minds, deeds and actions simply with the power of inert text.

The discussion about culling may very well be theoretical but there have been direct outcomes by the ONA that have and presumably still do lead to violence, terrorism and thousands of other ongoing acts that have their own story to tell. The Tempel ov Blood in NC for instance, Does hurt people, and acts as a cult that exacts punishing regimes and brain-washing programs, humiliation and torture. What draws people into this crazy ****? The Mythos of the ONA coupled with their Vampiric Spiel. Because of my association to the ONA I continually get people asking my advice on joining this or that sect, doing this or that action - whether they did some of them or not I will never know, the road is long and people usually fade away after a few months at best. Those that didn't joined me in the Temple of THEM.

I have done things I would not have thought myself capable of doing, and continue to act as a fanatic of the Sinister. Because of the power of the Mythos of the ONA. Almost anywhere you go on internet forums, the ONA commands interest. Here in 600 club, our nexion has over 12,000 visits. The hynotic allure of the ONA is not by chance. But what exactly is it? - in some respects, like a 3-handed piano player its litery assault manages to his to many keys its bound to hit one of yours.

Where it generates Conflict - it generates involved and brain-stretching efforts to get around its concepts which have a very solid grounding not only in the actual form they represent, but in the refusal to accept that form, there is a lesson too. Everything is a lesson in the ONA - hardship, failure, arrogance, destiny, emotion, whatever it is, whatever you achieve, there is always more. You're always half-done. A lot of people fear having no goal, nothing to aspire to - the ONA is so hard, thats not a problem.

Where it generates agreement it thrives especially when people beign to question its exoteric instructive doctrine - because you learn whether you go with the Septenary Way, or take a different approach and ask, they dont really expect me to do this do they, so why is This here? When it comes to the ONA you're dealing with a leviathan monster of ideas - a rich and poignant history and mythology that has inspired thousands of people. I have spoken to thousands of people over the decade about ONA or something related to it - and still it continues to draw attention and people into its dark arms.

THe ONA makes you seriously think, it cannot be easily dismissed, because even dismissal has a connotation about the dismisser's perception.

Inner turmoil has made me leave those arms many times as I struggle to understand, overcome, make peace with the huge contradictions and energies that assail anyone trying to comprehend the ONA on its many levels - but I think the best of ONA is yet to come and that the last 50 years have built only the foundations, and those forms with a life of their own have not yet peaked.

Moreover, one doesnt have to be gullible to be taken in by the ONA - the Order offers something for everyone, even if what you get is an air of superiority that you 'bested' it with your intellect.
Smart people are violent too - and struggling with autonomy and the conflict of being told what to do whilst struggling to be ones own agent - does get resolved, and people do/have gotten hurt regardless of whether they felt they were master or slave.

But what the ONA has really culled, is ignorance. It has performed thousands of fundamental and lastinf attacks and assualts on the points of view held by a very large number of people - it has torn holes in faulty reason and speculative nonsense, and it has altered, no matter that people dont admit it, the way people percieve IT, and therefore, broadened the average toolkit for how those people view other things. That is real change, because as the individual changes, so do they influence change in others and the outside world.

In the end, it all comes down to a mastery of Forms - no matter how you deliver them.


ISS,
RA

[ThoTh]

For a very important date?

[TheNagual]

Any date with her would be important.