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isis
01-25-2009, 04:00 AM
iam losing myself again and dont know why cause now i have to sleep with a cricle around my bed.. cause i have some bruses and dont remember where it is comeing from... is it posible to get into fights in the asteral and not remember them? jest a question that i am canserend about.... you dont have to ansower if you dont want to i jest wanted to wright this down so i wont forget it......


isis

rhoNIN
01-25-2009, 07:48 AM
Is it possible to get in fights in the astral and not remember them? I can say for certain that I have not, but then, if I had and didn't remember...

Off the top of my head, I've never been in a fight in the astral, period, but I am also ridiculously 'paranoid' in terms of preparation and safety-focus.

Sleeping inside a circle is never a bad idea, but I am concerned that you feel you *must* do so. Have you been banishing regularly? Have you been playing with anything particularly gnarly? Has your diet, exercise, and/or sleep pattern changed recently? Any physically or emotionally traumatic family stuff?

Without knowing more details, my immediate suggestion to re-balance would be:


1) Go read redhand's post on the LBRP. (http://www.occultforums.net/ceremonial-magic/212-lesser-banishing-ritual-pentagram.html) Follow exactly, and make it perfect. Take your time, and be sure everything feels locked up tight. Then do it again, slowly and perfectly.

2) Do it AGAIN. Seriously. For a third time in a row. Take a few deep breaths, and really really really make sure you do every step as thoroughly and intensely as possible.

3) Take a step back from other practice. No rituals, no pathworking, no spells, not even any candle magick or knotwork. Nothing. Personally, I'd even avoid movies and video games: even that stuff can carry an imprint if you're in an 'open' state.

4) Organize and clean your personal space. Take out the trash, do your laundry, dust your cabinets, change the sheets on your bed, pour cleaner down your drains, everything. If you're in a place where you can smudge with sage, lay salt, or burn a cleansing (not pretty) incense, I would suggest that as well.

5) Clean your self, thoroughly. Not just a regular bath or shower, but a full ritual cleansing. All your used clothes should be out in the laundry, and you should make sure to use a fresh towel to dry with. Put on clean, loose clothes of simple solid colors, preferably white or yellow. Avoid dark blues, purples, and greys or blacks.

6) Avoid non-prescription medicine and all complex substances for the next few days. That's everything from NyQuil to marijuana to alcohol to coffee and cigarettes. Ideally, one might go as far as to eat only bland food, such as unseasoned rice or oatmeal (no onions, garlic, pepper, sugar, or syrup). If possible, drink only water, preferably distilled, cleansed and blessed if you're into that kind of thing. Also, sexual release of any kind should be avoided, as the point of release can be a huge energy drain, as well as an opening for anything that may be causing you trouble.

This is an excessive program: however, it's just about guaranteed to get you squared away. Give it a few days, and definitely call on any friends/deities/spirit guides with whom you're associated to help.

Best of luck.

Y Ddraig Goch
01-25-2009, 10:09 AM
well, from what i can tell you should review the chapters in psychic self-defence from dion fortune. i think someone is paying you "astral visits" while you are asleep. maybe it is something else. to where my knowledge expands i think that is whats been bothering you. dont take my post for granted for it might be something else. this is just a suggestion of what could it be.

Odin
01-25-2009, 10:24 AM
yes it is possible to have this happen, as suggested begin to learn the LBRP

the ( Lower Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram ) follow what Redhand has posted if you have been doing any rituals in on place do the ritual in that room to cleanse and clear the room from anything of a lower energy

as we raise our energies we attract energies that are of a lesser frequency to try and feed off the higher frequencies

you are not losing yourself I went through the same thing there are other things that you can do also to help cleanse the house

sometimes this is growth as we raise our energies move on a spiritual path these things might happen

LBRP

Saeiane
01-25-2009, 10:25 PM
Indeed it is possible, quite a few times I'd gotten in tussles in the unseen. One more memorable one, my girlfriend at the time was being assaulted by something in her room while we were on the phone. I summoned the red goblin and set him to protect her while I readied myself (strangely I did it on intuition and had not known that the red goblin was a good protector as well as good luck spirit..) I projected and defended her. I like to think I lost the fight but won the battle, somehow. Hahaha.

Either way I woke up the next morning feeling like I got the sh*t kicked out of me.

As to what you're experiencing.. Do some grounding techniques and protective rituals before bed, you may be the one going out- instead of something else coming in. So the grounding should keep you in your body during the unconscious hours. Hopefully at least, if not and you're still getting beat on in your sleep. I'd invoke a protector like Michael before you sleep, I used to wake up with extremely unexplained scars all over my body when I was little. My parents wrote it off as me sleeping on something that cut me, but I didn't buy it. Still don't.

Lady Dunsany
01-25-2009, 10:30 PM
I'd invoke a protector like Michael before you sleep.


Saeiane is right. I can not think of a better protector than Michael.

redhand
01-25-2009, 10:31 PM
Work on relaxing and grounding and centering before you retire to bed. It should help. I sent you a few other things in a PM to you that you might want to try. Hope that it helps!

Odin
01-25-2009, 10:40 PM
I had something on my chest one night and looked at my chest and had scratches all over it and this went on for about a week and a half till it was banned from the house and a lot of house cleaning.

isis
01-26-2009, 02:12 AM
Have you been banishing regularly? yes i have been banishing regularly.. Have you been playing with anything particularly gnarly? no jest got a new crystl ball and a new cat that hiss at everyone but me i named her demand and she ansowers to it... Has your diet, exercise, and/or sleep pattern changed recently? my diet is fine, i walk every day, but i dont sleep well never have my mom and dad used to tell me that they would put me to bed but i would stay awake cause of the red eyes under my bed... Any physically or emotionally traumatic family stuff? no none of that jest stress at this place i work at cause no one likes me...


thank you every one this helps out alot i will deffently call on a protector and redhand i got your pm thank you i will do it...

thanks again my friends...

Lady Dunsany
01-26-2009, 10:54 PM
Please let us know how you are doing?

isis
01-27-2009, 01:53 AM
i will thank you.... i am going to medatat more befor doing asteral so i can get myself back on track... i feel like i did some thing wrong and i guess i started to fight with what i was doing that night so i am jest going to go back to the begining and start all over again.... i dont know if it will work but i am going to try... thanks eveyone for your help... this is why i like to be on here...

Harlock
01-30-2009, 07:57 AM
i would do all the recogmended things, and like everyone has said, you can get hurt in the astral realm and not remember it, is your cat a familiar? if he or she is it may not be helping with this, the crystal ball when you use it might be creating a pathway of sorts (especially if you got a cat whose sensitive and new to it) cast a ritual circle before you use it and for awhile do the LBRP afterwards for awhile just on the safe side, (not in the same circle) this MIGHT help if all else fails, but this is more of a preventive measure, than anything, but try what they say first, you got some great advice no matter what, but either way keep us informed

(sry for the late reply isis I did not see this thread)

Lady Dunsany
01-30-2009, 10:09 AM
Harlock has given some good advice and I hope you let us know how it works out and if you need anything we are here.

isis
01-31-2009, 01:24 AM
thank you everyone it has helped me out alot... i dont know if my cat is a familiar she jest showd up one day and came right in and up to my room lol... everythings goten better since i did everything that was sagested.... the broses went away fast and you cant see them now.... and i sleeping good now but still have to fight my self to go to sleep....

Lady Dunsany
01-31-2009, 05:16 AM
Continue doing what you are doing and say before you go to bed I will fall asleep and sleep the right amount of hours my body needs and I will wake up refreshed and safe. It will take a bit but every day it will get better.

isis
01-31-2009, 05:27 PM
thank you i will