ojia boords

[isis]

[size=large][color=#800080][/b] i dont get the ojia bords at all i tryed to us one but it wont talk to me. but on the other hand it will talk to the rest of my family. what can i do? i tryed everythig i can think of i even made one. of cours iam new to this.

[Alexandriac]

okay, I know your family plays with those things but I would not sugest it. It could be a sign that you should dear. That is enviting spirits into your home. Problem is that you don't know what kind of spirit you'll get. There for you may end up getting one you don't want. Such as an evil or bad spirit.

Yet, if you must try to clear your mind. Just let every thing go. All most like a meditation but make sure that you protect your self. Also put a protection spell round it making it so that bad spirits can not come in and out. Don't call for one kind of spirit. You may make one come that doesn't want to come. That makes them pretty upset. Just ask for a could spirit would like to speak with you as you meditate. Put all of your energy into it. Plus, see what it is that your family does to make it work.

Also pls tell me the things that you have tried. I might be able to help you a little better.

[arsniclulliby]

Ouija boards are sketchy at best...but I have yet to meet anyone that's had a positive experience with one.

[Charmed2Wiccan]

Hello, I am a practicing witch, I have used Ouija boards in the past and I must agree with Alexandriac on a few notes. First off, NEVER under any circumstance use a spirit board alone. You can become possessed by a spirit. I agree that you should cast a protection spell before using the board, and give the board time to respond. Like witchcraft, spells sometimes take time to work. Try using a solitary space with a couple of like friends usually 3 people is a good number, a darkened room lit by a few candles and some people prefer light music or the sounds of water trickling or simply dead quiet. Clear your mind and be in almost a meditation state. The thing is, don't EXPECT a certain spirit to show up or answer and be very careful using a spirit board. I have had unpleasant experiences in the past.

[Lady Dunsany]

I had a most unfortunate experience when I was young with a Ouija board, and it brought in a spirit that wrecked havoc on my family , remember the Exorcist. But if you must always cast a protection spell on the board and yourself but even this sometimes can not stop a malovelent entity from stopping by sometimes they will not leave. I agree with all the ones here, be careful and think before you do. The entity I brought in never hurt me but hurt members of my family so it was a high price to pay for being curious.

[isis]

thinks for the advice but i did have one that talked to me when i was younger like about 10 and it would move on its own at times cause my sis would leave it out so when i walked in to the room we were sheiring it would spell my name but no one would be in the room with me at the time it was doing this and my family thought i was going crazy. so one day my sis was playing with it and i was a my grandmothers house for a weekend and it asked her where i was and she toled it that she was not going to tell them and the the pointer flow at her and hit her in the face and when i came home my sis was trying to set it on fire and that was the last time they talked to me.


she naver did get it to catch fire though.

[Odin]

It goes tyo show you that when your Sis tried to get rid of the Ojia board and it would not light that some power that be had already tken the board and of not good energy.

When playing with a Ojia board you or something opens portals to other realms that I would say a good 90 % of the time are not of the highest level of entity and as in all Magick what you bring in or open you must beable to BANISH and close

What ever comes in through the portal is there for one reason and to me seems to come to life it's life and create havoc, all the snswers that the board gives are the answers that you, the " entity " wants you to hear so that you will keep coming back and build up the energies and the ties between the two or three who ever is using the board and latch on to said people

As stated above alwways surround yourself in protection and the and the area which you are working

in my eyes not a good thing to be playing with Ojia

to many horror stories

[isis]

i guess that it is a good thing that the bords wont talk to me no more. even after a friend was trying to get me to tolk to one and she had to ask the questinos for me cause it would not move when i had my hands on it. well she asked it who i would marrie and it gave her a C and a H but i dont know any one with those letters in their names but that is all it gave her. but then their was this one time when she asked who ever she was talking to to show themselves which in my mind is a bad thing but it said that it was going to come that night and kill us both but i said yeah right and left for home. i got a call the next day from her dad he told me that she was not going to come over to day cause she was all cut up from a dream she had that night.

so i stoped tolking to them untill i whent out and got one this year.

[Nox Invictus]

Everyone's had scary experiences on the ouija board. I absolutely love them for that very reason. What a great trail and error teacher! It's like AIDS, but with less long-lasting consequences, usually. Haha!

Here's how the ouija board works: It causes you to make ideomotor actions, subconscious movements that you yourself (or your group) are making. You just don't know it (consciously) because they're subconscious. Your subconscious also has the layout of the ouija board memorized, so you can do it blind folded or without looking at the board, but it's you who is moving the plachette. The question is "Who's moving you?" Theoretically, that is, in occult theory, the spirits with which you are communicating are possessing you, their willing host, atleast partially.

My advice to anyone using a ouija board would be to make sure that proper protections are in place to prevent the attachment of negative entities or otherwise any harm coming to the participants. The ouija board is a great tool for spirit communication, especially for those of us who aren't skilled in psi-perception.

[isis]

i like them too but i jest cant seem to get them to talk to me my mom says that i might not belive in them cause you have to belive in them to work.... is it ture do you have to belive in ojia boords in order for them to work cause i do belive in them but they wont talk to me but other then that if a spirit wants to talk to me they will show themselves to me and say my name...

[Nox Invictus]

i like them too but i jest cant seem to get them to talk to me my mom says that i might not belive in them cause you have to belive in them to work.... is it ture do you have to belive in ojia boords in order for them to work cause i do belive in them but they wont talk to me but other then that if a spirit wants to talk to me they will show themselves to me and say my name...


I can't get them to work either, atleast not by myself. I'm way too analytical. Using the ouija board in a group doesn't necessarily make our subconcious mind more open to the idea of communicating with spirits. It doesn't need help. Working in a group makes our conscious mind more open. If other people are doing it with us, it helps our conscious mind to relax because the "psychic censor" of each person involved can just blame the others for moving the plachette when in reality, it's all of the people involved unless someone is being a dick and moving it purposely.

[isis]

i agree it has happend to me once.. but i am gulde that i am not the only one..

[Lady Dunsany]

Everyone's had scary experiences on the ouija board. I absolutely love them for that very reason. What a great trail and error teacher! It's like AIDS, but with less long-lasting consequences, usually. Haha!

Here's how the ouija board works: It causes you to make ideomotor actions, subconscious movements that you yourself (or your group) are making. You just don't know it (consciously) because they're subconscious. Your subconscious also has the layout of the ouija board memorized, so you can do it blind folded or without looking at the board, but it's you who is moving the plachette. The question is "Who's moving you?" Theoretically, that is, in occult theory, the spirits with which you are communicating are possessing you, their willing host, atleast partially.

If you know what you are doing and most people do not. Yes you are right about protecting yourself, but you can not protect the whole house or place you are in. I do not like them as if you want to talk to spirits that badly you do not need a board to do it. You would be better off with automatic writing. I am glad you like them but as I said before you will get an uninvited guest that does not want to leave and then this is where the trouble begins, then it is people like me that get called in to clean house. I also think that the Ouija is more of a parlor game for people who have no idea what they are doing. Just know you have been warned and one day you will understand what we old magickians are talking about. It is not your energy doing this or your subconscious if you do not put your hands on it it will still move. Anyway good luck.

[Nox Invictus]

Everyone's had scary experiences on the ouija board. I absolutely love them for that very reason. What a great trail and error teacher! It's like AIDS, but with less long-lasting consequences, usually. Haha!

Here's how the ouija board works: It causes you to make ideomotor actions, subconscious movements that you yourself (or your group) are making. You just don't know it (consciously) because they're subconscious. Your subconscious also has the layout of the ouija board memorized, so you can do it blind folded or without looking at the board, but it's you who is moving the plachette. The question is "Who's moving you?" Theoretically, that is, in occult theory, the spirits with which you are communicating are possessing you, their willing host, atleast partially.

My advice to anyone using a ouija board would be to make sure that proper protections are in place to prevent the attachment of negative entities or otherwise any harm coming to the participants. The ouija board is a great tool for spirit communication, especially for those of us who aren't skilled in psi-perception.

If you know what you are doing and most people do not. Yes you are right about protecting yourself, but you can not protect the whole house or place you are in. I do not like them as if you want to talk to spirits that badly you do not need a board to do it. You would be better off with automatic writing. I am gald you like them but as I said before you will get an uninvited guest that does not want to leave and then this is where the trouble begins, thenit is people like me that get called in to clean house. I also think that the Ouija is more of a parlor game for people who have no idea what they are doing. Just know you have been warned and one day you will understand what we old magickians are talking about. It is not your energy doing this or your subconscious if you do not put your hands on it it will still move. Anyway good luck.


There, I fixed it for you.

It's funny that you think Ouija is more of a parlor game, because that's exactly what critics of automatic writing say. Automatic writing theoretically works the same way as a ouiji board. You (or just your hand) are acting as a medium. The only reason automatic writing is less likely to attract negative spirits is due to the experience of a person who would use automatic writing. It takes a bit more skill in "suspension of disbelief". You might as well have said "You would be better off using evokation." The whole point of using a ouija board is it's for people who don't have the skills to use other methods, like maybe your friends who don't practice magic. If I wanted to communicate with a spirit, I'd try evokation and scrying, which doesn't require me to channel the spirit. If I had some friends who wanted to communicate with the spirit, I'd use a ouija board, or better yet, I'd use a bunch of index cards with letters on them arranged in a circle around a table with a shot glass as a plachette, no Milton-Bradley devil-board required.

I've never seen the plachette move by itself, but I've heard of it happening, usually when more negative entities show up. Plachettes moving themselves don't prove that it's your energy that does it and not your subconscious mind. It could be the energy of the entity being contacted, and science has pretty much proven that the ouija board works on ideomotor actions. Even if it was "your energy" that moves the plachette, this energy most likely comes from or is controlled by the subconscious mind. Otherwise, all humans would have access to it at any time.

I've also never had an "uninvited guest" refuse to leave, possibly because the idea of it comes from the negative stigma surrounding the ouija board and the idea has no more of a basis in reality than you assign to it, possibly because I know what I'm doing. Don't worry. I won't be calling you or any other "old Magickians" any time soon.

I don't know if you noticed this or not, but part of the reason I like ouija boards is for the same reason you don't. Anyway, thanks for the "warning". lol

[Lady Dunsany]

Everyone's had scary experiences on the ouija board. I absolutely love them for that very reason. What a great trail and error teacher! It's like AIDS, but with less long-lasting consequences, usually. Haha!

Here's how the ouija board works: It causes you to make ideomotor actions, subconscious movements that you yourself (or your group) are making. You just don't know it (consciously) because they're subconscious. Your subconscious also has the layout of the ouija board memorized, so you can do it blind folded or without looking at the board, but it's you who is moving the plachette. The question is "Who's moving you?" Theoretically, that is, in occult theory, the spirits with which you are communicating are possessing you, their willing host, atleast partially.

My advice to anyone using a ouija board would be to make sure that proper protections are in place to prevent the attachment of negative entities or otherwise any harm coming to the participants. The ouija board is a great tool for spirit communication, especially for those of us who aren't skilled in psi-perception.

If you know what you are doing and most people do not. Yes you are right about protecting yourself, but you can not protect the whole house or place you are in. I do not like them as if you want to talk to spirits that badly you do not need a board to do it. You would be better off with automatic writing. I am gald you like them but as I said before you will get an uninvited guest that does not want to leave and then this is where the trouble begins, thenit is people like me that get called in to clean house. I also think that the Ouija is more of a parlor game for people who have no idea what they are doing. Just know you have been warned and one day you will understand what we old magickians are talking about. It is not your energy doing this or your subconscious if you do not put your hands on it it will still move. Anyway good luck.


There, I fixed it for you.

It's funny that you think Ouija is more of a parlor game, because that's exactly what critics of automatic writing say. Automatic writing theoretically works the same way as a ouiji board. You (or just your hand) are acting as a medium. The only reason automatic writing is less likely to attract negative spirits is due to the experience of a person who would use automatic writing. It takes a bit more skill in "suspension of disbelief". You might as well have said "You would be better off using evokation." The whole point of using a ouija board is it's for people who don't have the skills to use other methods, like maybe your friends who don't practice magic. If I wanted to communicate with a spirit, I'd try evokation and scrying, which doesn't require me to channel the spirit. If I had some friends who wanted to communicate with the spirit, I'd use a ouija board, or better yet, I'd use a bunch of index cards with letters on them arranged in a circle around a table with a shot glass as a plachette, no Milton-Bradley devil-board required.

I've never seen the plachette move by itself, but I've heard of it happening, usually when more negative entities show up. Plachettes moving themselves don't prove that it's your energy that does it and not you subconscious mind. It could be the energy of the entity being contacted, and science has pretty much proven that the ouija board works on ideomotor actions. Even if it was "your energy" that moves the plachette, this energy most likely comes from or is controlled by the subconscious mind. Otherwise, all humans would have access to it at any time.

I've also never had an "uninvited guest" refuse to leave, possibly because the idea of it comes from the negative stigma surrounding the ouija board and the idea has no more of a basis in reality than you assign to it, possibly because I know what I'm doing. Don't worry. I won't be calling you or any other "old Magickians" any time soon.

I don't know if you noticed this or not, but part of the reason I like ouija boards is for the same reason you don't. Anyway, thanks for the "warning". lol
Good. I will be waiting a pm in a few months. LOL.

[RaptorX]

A question to Lady Dunsany.

why cant you protect a room or a house?

[Lady Dunsany]

I just found this. You can protect a house as best you can, but the rub is the Ouija Board is not like doing the LBRP before invoking or banishing. These pernicious little entities can get through no matter what you do, it is just a fact. These dark entities come in because they are attracted to the energy of you and it does not matter how much a shield you put around you, they still find a portal. I hope this makes sense.

[RaptorX]

it does. i just wanted to know. :)

[Lady Dunsany]

You know you can pm me. I do not bite except At full moons.

[redhand]

Ouija board is a small wooden board with a pointer, surrounded by letters of the alphabet, used for obtaining alleged spirit messages. It is a variant of the planchette. The questioner places one hand lightly on the board, which is then said to move of its own accord, spelling out answers to questions asked.

Little is published regarding Aleister Crowley's advocacy of the ouija board. Yet, he had great admiration for the use of one and the Ouija board played a passing role in his magical workings. Crowley also discussed the Ouija board with another of his students, and the most ardent of them, Frater Achad (Charles Stansfeld Jones): it is frequently mentioned in their unpublished letters. In 1917 Achad experimented with the board as a means of summoning Angels, as opposed to Elementals. In one letter Crowley told Jones: "Your Ouija board experiment is rather fun. You see how very satisfactory it is, but I believe things improve greatly with practice. I think you should keep to one angel, and make the magical preparations more elaborate."

Crowley has stated, of the Ouija Board that, "There is, however, a good way of using this instrument to get what you want, and that is to perform the whole operation in a consecrated circle, so that undesirable aliens cannot interfere with it. You should then employ the proper magical invocation in order to get into your circle just the one spirit you want. It is comparatively easy to do this. A few simple instructions are all that is necessary, and I shall be pleased to give these, free of charge, to any one who cares to apply.

I personally am not fond of this device but, it does work on the familiar idea and is very similar to automatic writing, the only difference between the two being the absence of the board itself in automatic writing. . Most of the dangers are results of the practitioners themselves. It is a powerful tool in the occult and we would warn anybody who does not know what they are doing to steer well clear of the Ouija.

It is said dealing with the dangers that most often the spirits whom are contacted through the Ouija are those whom reside on "the lower astral plane". Therefore, many can be violent, negative and potentially dangerous conditions are present to those using the board. Often times several spirits will attempt to come through at the same time but the real danger lies when you ask for physical proof of their existence! What you have just done is simple, you have "opened a doorway" and allowed them to enter into the physical world and future problems can and often do arise.

Whether one believes in it or not, it is a tool, and as with any tool it takes practice and study.

[Lady Dunsany]

Ouija board is a small wooden board with a pointer, surrounded by letters of the alphabet, used for obtaining alleged spirit messages. It is a variant of the planchette. The questioner places one hand lightly on the board, which is then said to move of its own accord, spelling out answers to questions asked.

Little is published regarding Aleister Crowley's advocacy of the ouija board. Yet, he had great admiration for the use of one and the Ouija board played a passing role in his magical workings. Crowley also discussed the Ouija board with another of his students, and the most ardent of them, Frater Achad (Charles Stansfeld Jones): it is frequently mentioned in their unpublished letters. In 1917 Achad experimented with the board as a means of summoning Angels, as opposed to Elementals. In one letter Crowley told Jones: "Your Ouija board experiment is rather fun. You see how very satisfactory it is, but I believe things improve greatly with practice. I think you should keep to one angel, and make the magical preparations more elaborate."

Crowley has stated, of the Ouija Board that, "There is, however, a good way of using this instrument to get what you want, and that is to perform the whole operation in a consecrated circle, so that undesirable aliens cannot interfere with it. You should then employ the proper magical invocation in order to get into your circle just the one spirit you want. It is comparatively easy to do this. A few simple instructions are all that is necessary, and I shall be pleased to give these, free of charge, to any one who cares to apply.

I personally am not fond of this device but, it does work on the familiar idea and is very similar to automatic writing, the only difference between the two being the absence of the board itself in automatic writing. . Most of the dangers are results of the practitioners themselves. It is a powerful tool in the occult and we would warn anybody who does not know what they are doing to steer well clear of the Ouija.

It is said dealing with the dangers that most often the spirits whom are contacted through the Ouija are those whom reside on "the lower astral plane". Therefore, many can be violent, negative and potentially dangerous conditions are present to those using the board. Often times several spirits will attempt to come through at the same time but the real danger lies when you ask for physical proof of their existence! What you have just done is simple, you have "opened a doorway" and allowed them to enter into the physical world and future problems can and often do arise.

Whether one believes in it or not, it is a tool, and as with any tool it takes practice and study.
Brilliant as always my friend. Wanted to let you know bridges have been mended and all is well.

[osirus]

ouiji boards are not to be trifled with. as you can tell, those of us with first hand experience know now what a mistake it is. it is like a portal to the looney bin of spirits, they will pick your mind and tell you things, if they are strong enough they will feed off you and diminish your spirit, they will become your friends, for they wish you to join them someday. but other than that have fun with it:D

[Gazeeboh]

I like to use them by myself mostly. When in groups everyone elses juju usually gets in the way. You just turn of your thinking parts and watch what happens. Like it was said in this thread before, its not unlike automatic writing.

Sometimes you meet really cool spirits. Sometimes you meet dicks. One spirit caught my friends hair on fire while we were chatting. I've talked to people who used to live in this house I'm at. I've talked to things claiming to be Lucyfur. I've tried to get ahold of Jesus too but he was a no show.

Another use I read about was to use it as an occult laptop. Take it with and "type" out spells or glyphs on it. Maybe get into radioncs here and use a ouija inspired keyboard for a computer but plug it into a crystal or some occult transmitter. Thats awesome.

Feel free to use it but just keep in mind it's a bit risky. Don't take anything from it seriously. It's like a party line on the tele, yeah yeah I'm a big shot millonaire with rippling muscles and a huge dick. Thats cute and entertaining but thats it.

It's not a controlled method at all. Anything can come in and say its anything. I've had nice spirits tell me wonderful warm fuzzy **** but they were rotten to the core and shot off icky nasty vibes. Even if you meet Lord Buddha on the path, you gotta kill that guy.

If you do get bad things, or even good things, just tell them to leave. Then make them. Throw some incense around or whatever it is you do. They go. They have other kids playing with spirit boards to mess with.

Reminds me of the time my house was haunted by a spirit pretending to be an old man. It was so ma......

[toadbile]

Listening to Art Bell and friends i hear a lot of dabblers who are genuinely
worried about what they've called up with the O-Boards. They have not
the least idea of what to do or how to dismiss their visitor. Rather than
try and talk them through the basics of Craft, i point them at this:

http://www.toxicshaman.com/

Gives them the feeling that they have done something to actively defend
themselves. Good attitude is important in these things.

[Saeiane]

I take a different approach to oujia boards. I have never used one personally but I believe your reality makes the difference, if you use one with the intent or belief it can bring spirits into your home it will. If you believe it's just a toy, then it perhaps will be just a toy.

They are a tool, the purpose of tools is to focus and magnify your own energies and powers. So it is quite possible you'll wind up with a spirit in your home even if you DO think of it as a toy. Ironically, when this happens and it is a ill-disposed entity.. You're likely to focus on the board as your problem when it can help to be a solution (If you summon by it you can banish by it)

I once had a situation with a future student and her friend. I was teaching them to make orbs when an astral attack on them occurred (the friend had already been attacked in the past and was particularly vulnerable) and upon reaching their home (the lesson was over the phone, so I projected) there were dozens of shadowy creatures crawling over her home. And more on the way. I spent a good 5-7 minutes getting rid of them. The point here is that when you focus energy, the law of Like attracts Like comes into play. This is one of the reasons why people say things like "don't get involved with stuff you don't know about" but.. Well, we all are inexperienced at some point- to live by that would be to throw off anything new.

So as I said, the board is simply a focal point/tool. Good or bad things can happen depending on what you do with it in my opinion. Though I've rarely heard of someone having a good experience with them, I won't make my final decision until I've had an experience.