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ormagus
02-14-2009, 12:45 PM
This topic maybe fits under Alchemy but maybe under Astral projection too so I put it as a general thread.

Here's the deal.

I have been told by a good source that the Red Lion, aka the Philosopher's stone, when ingested, allows you to go to 11 other realms. Said source said this realm is hell.

On the web at Subject: *For the Record* Interview 1/2 (http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/intrview/ftrintrv.htm) is an interview with a person who did a 40 day fast on monoatomic elements. He claims there is another realm '90 degrees right'

I've talked to a chemical engineer who used red gold diatoms, also an alchemical product, and was able to travel through his own body to other realms, with his body becoming a microcosm with rivers and caves and portals and gates.

Anyone heard of these things before or knows additional information? I'm interested in the possibility and ability to go to other (hopefully better) realms than the one in now.

Lady Dunsany
02-14-2009, 01:19 PM
You are a little off base. The Philosopher stone is not just the elixir of life it is also something much more important. You do not need the stone to travel to other realms, most people think there are only four but there are the basic seven and much more. There is no hell, it is like a hierarchy there are lower and even lower and then they ascend.

bakeneko
02-14-2009, 01:46 PM
I have been told by a good source that the Red Lion, aka the Philosopher's stone, when ingested, allows you to go to 11 other realms. Said source said this realm is hell.


Anyone heard of these things before or knows additional information? I'm interested in the possibility and ability to go to other (hopefully better) realms than the one in now.


Your source is not as good as you think ( if it actually is, please let you give a sample of the philosophers stone and send me some too ;) ). As the Lady said, it has nothing to do with the philosophers stone (even though this theory is at least a new one).

Besides, there are many many many realms. I still put them on different planes for convinience, but they are virtually infinite.
You can "travel" there without eating strange stuff ( I even eat meat lol).
I do not want (or need) pimp my posts, but here I described one of my experiences:
http://www.occultforums.net/7836-post2.html

For me a important point is that these other realms are *not* as the Christian paradise concept to keep people happy in hopes (and chains) while they work their asses off to pay high taxes to clerics.
For me they are real... a place to visit, also a place to hang out, a place to gather information about this world (!) and a place to solve your problems in this world (!). So for me this "normal" world is not second grade to the other ones...they are parts of one infinitely big world.

Just my 2 cents...

Lady Dunsany
02-14-2009, 03:53 PM
Thank You bakeneko. I had to run out so I could not finish.

bakeneko
02-14-2009, 03:57 PM
You are welcome...even though I just wrote my opinion^^

Lady Dunsany
02-14-2009, 04:18 PM
It was a good one.

bakeneko
02-14-2009, 04:26 PM
Thanks ...