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    Lightbulb Crowded AP??!!

    Hi guys.

    I have some questions regarding Astral Projection that are bothering me for a while.

    I have never been able to Project, I can control my dreams though... Some times in the morning I end up in dream paralysis and totally aware... some of the tips for AP is to trick your body to think its sleeping and then try to stand up but here is my problem:

    In state of total paralysis and totally aware of everything I usually hear people around me, plus a feeling of uncontrollable fear.

    Usually I am a person that has not that much fears and when i do have I am able to control it but this feeling is not the normal one. In the tips they explain that that fear is normal and that i should relax but they dont mention voices at all.

    The problem is that when I start hearing people in the room that are not suppoused to be there and me being in dream paralysis not being able to see who is there or what they are going to do I grow anxious and the whole AP goes off...

    Any Idea what is happening and what can I do about it?

    Thanks in advance!

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    The paralysis is because you can not get back in to your body and you are frozen so to speak. Before you go to sleep ask that you will exit your body fast and come back into your body fast. You are astral traveling you just do not realize it. There is a thread here on astral traveling but I will reiterate, if you wake up as if you are drugged if you feel as if you are covered in honey you were traveling. People confuse lucid dreaming with traveling it is one and the same, it is just sometimes you remember sometimes you do not, there is a reason for this, you are not meant to remember. The people in the room could e astral bodies of people long dead, or teachers trying to get in contact with you. It is a very simple process and people worry too much. You are going to attract no matter what but you can do a protection before you sleep at night also.

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    Default RE: Crowded AP??!!

    Thanks for your quick answer.

    I will read the AP thread and wonder a little bit more on the forum, but l want to know
    something:

    I was raised under a Christian family, very closed minded as they usually are I have little or no knowledge about occultism, even though I do experience things that are described here in general, symbols that I have never seen before feel so familiar to me, and bunch of other things that only me and myself would believe can be possible until I read some occult books... But I have really no idea how to make protection rituals.

    I have heard and read about them but too generalized... I've read about protection circles and creating talismans and since I have reason I draw in my mind pentagrams in the floor and walls of my room (I never understood why though... I make a lot of things just by instinct but dont know real Theory behind them)

    So if you could please point me to some reading or if you can explain me yourself would be great!

    Thanks for your help.

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    Oh God point you in a direction. I was raised in this life and did not get my knowledge from books, but I was given books to read when I was younger by my father. I would say anything by Crowley, Dion Fortune, anything on The Golden Dawn, if you are interested in Witchcraft Scott Cunningham, Natural Magick John Michael Greer, Israel Regardie, Eliphas Levi, Mathers, etc. I was taught in Eastern Occultism so the past year or so I have been studying Western Occultism which is a lot easier and not so hard on the body. I am sure Amazon or Alibris have wonderful books on creating talismans. There is such a variety out there it is hard to know what to suggest unless one knows what one wants. My husband ws raised Catholic so believe it or not that helps in your practices. You are just doing what you should be doing but are finally realizing it. Go on line and put what you want in and a lot of great information is out there. Gotta go.

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