Originally Posted by
Belasko
The word Vision Quest and Fire Walks make me cringe big time. I have a hard time with any labels, and as long as I have practiced magick, let us call it what it is going within, and vision quest reminds me of a Disney movie. Please excuse my cynicism but all this beating around the bush, and big words do not an occultist make.
I don't understand what it is about so many people in these forums: Why the need for these unnecessary personal jabs? So what if a term gives you a negative emotional reaction? Surely a more classy way of expressing your chagrin would be simply to explicate the inappropriateness of a term in summing up an interpretation of the relevant set of data. Surely I could object to the validity of the strong literalism that you propose for your phrase "going within," as it does employ a spatial metaphor in application to a--tenably--non- or merely quasi-spatial realm of experience (equally, one could say, "going without" with just as much validity). Moreover, it seems quite odd to me that you would enter into this discussion without addressing any of the multitude of points that have been made, or otherwise contributing something substantive to the topic; choosing, instead, to grab immediate attention for yourself by chastising the terminology employed by those contributors who have, obviously, been managing quite all right without your opinions.
"If you, Hegias, are saying that theurgy is divine then I agree with you. But those destined to be gods must first become human; that is why Plato said that philosophy is the greatest gift ever to have come down from the Gods to humanity."
--Isidore of Gaza, recorded by Damascius the Diadochus in his Philosophical History.
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