Hit a new junction on the path/ reaching for a bit of guidance

Okay. I understand that it is all well for those new to practicing magick to be careful, and I wish for this as well. But, I think it is fine enough to just say "Be careful, or you will go through some painful and unsettling situations that can lead to all kinds of disaster."

However, I think that is fitting to describe most things in life. There is always risk. I don't think where that danger might come from can ever be even slightly judged by someone else. Only you can grasp what might harm you. Basically, what I'm saying is that people should not worry much about what has been dangerous for someone else. If you even get the thought of something being dangerous (from someone else) it could very well become a danger to you.

These words breed reality. Everything we say adds more and more validity and reality to the concepts we talk about.

...and I've never liked Peter Carrol, too much science. Spare is probably my main inspiration when it comes to magickal thought.

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Somehow i mahanged not to see your post the first time around. I love you so far your my favorite virus.

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Thank you. I got caught up in the virus/language thing last night, it was a full on possesion.

I liked your post, mainly because you talked about working with a "Cougar" energy. Using animal forms within my occult practice is something new to me, but has worked wonders since I've began.

I wonder how many Magicians have used "Cougar" energy, "Cougar" as in older woman trying to get with younger man, within their occult practice.

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Originally Posted by Imhotepsol

Shani:

I'm glad you read my other post; since the PM function has gone from here I haven't been checking in much.

I see a great parallel in our paths Shani, that is why I replied to you and hopefully it was what you needed to hear. Continue working for an advantage, but try and remember what you gained the advantage for and not become lost in wonder.

I believe that all paths lead to enlightenment if followed to completion, eventually evil becomes good and vice versa. They both seem to exist and are both tools, it does no use to hide from one by diving into the other, and eventually both pillars must be dissolved but to do that you need to know the power and weakness of each.

This leads into what Lokia_Zos what alluding to. Everything I clothe in words is useless and probably better off left unsaid. The truth has to be experienced for it to become real, but words have their place in fuelling the desire to seek. The experience is shattering but the path is building.

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WHat youve said, and the discourse you wrote in the training grounds have been helpful, I really do apreciate it, and I think the timing has been good.

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if followed to completion, eventually evil becomes good and vice versa. They both seem to exist and are both tools, it does no use to hide from one by diving into the other, and eventually both pillars must be dissolved but to do that you need to know the power and weakness of each.

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I was just thinking the same thing this afternoon. And I am studying powers and weaknesses of opposites, (not to mention good an evil :D ) you make a good point about hiding in one or the other. Again, since i dont follow any occult stuff its kinda comforting to hear a similar "realization" from someone else in the universe.

One reason i dont read the stuff is that systems annoy me, except for some eastern pholosophy. I feel i have better movement these days through my own intuition, i usually just get bored with the slow pace of other systems.
Ive skimmed or dabbled in various systems but usully tire of it quickly and go off on my own. That doesnt mean i'm not always open to things. If you would recomend any literature you personally think might be helpful i would definately check it out. ALso thank you for replying with your explanation on the other thread. I will look for your post, theological mechanics i think you called it.

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Originally Posted by Lokia_Zos

Thank you. I got caught up in the virus/language thing last night, it was a full on possesion.

I liked your post, mainly because you talked about working with a "Cougar" energy. Using animal forms within my occult practice is something new to me, but has worked wonders since I've began.

I wonder how many Magicians have used "Cougar" energy, "Cougar" as in older woman trying to get with younger man, within their occult practice.

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Probably not enough. I mean, there just aren't enough magicians working with cultural stereotypes in general.

I just started working more actively with animal energy. Ive had totems communicate sometimes throughout the years, and ive been shown by totems what animal energy is the most prominant in me, but ive only recently been trying to seek out and use specific animal energies. I'm really curious, what animal energies have you worked with, and how do you work with them?

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Banish everyone elses words, that would be a much more effective reason to perform Banishing rituals.

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That is the damn truth. Actually Ive been thinking of going on a spirit quest, but for the primary purpose of getting everyone else (and everything) out of my system, because I want to keep it from effecting my work as much as possible.

I just wantede to report that the final step of the goal i set out to accomplish, that i was afraid I had botched with the first step, and which might now be truly impossoble, hows now been achieved..... victory is mine!!!! HAHAHAHAH
I'm exausted.

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Probably not enough. I mean, there just aren't enough magicians working with cultural stereotypes in general.

I just started working more actively with animal energy. Ive had totems communicate sometimes throughout the years, and ive been shown by totems what animal energy is the most prominant in me, but ive only recently been trying to seek out and use specific animal energies. I'm really curious, what animal energies have you worked with, and how do you work with them?

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I think I'm going to work a little more with cultural stereotypes, because I've never really even considered doing it and it might be an interesting experience.

I used to (in my more modern chaos magick days) just observe animals, tune into them, it helps if the animal is around. I normally wouldn't even talk about this method, but I worked with it today and found it to be more successful than my earlier attempts a few years ago. It just involves a lot of observation and mimicking until you feel a mental shift. I did this with Chihuahas earlier today.

Normally anymore I use a sigil, or something from my alphabet (of desire) representing the animal...again waiting for that mental shift. I eventually create a representation of an idealized form of whichever animal I'm working with and visualize it on it's own or in conjunction with the above method. I've done this technique primarily with various types of birds (including owl, vulture, and crow), types of cats (panther and housecat), wolf and I think that is the full list. Oh, using that first technique, the one involving observing and such I've also worked with squirrel, penguin, and chihuaha.

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Originally Posted by Lokia_Zos

I think I'm going to work a little more with cultural stereotypes, because I've never really even considered doing it and it might be an interesting experience.

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Awww yea! i was being a kidder but please fill us in if you work with cultueral stereotypes, that would be totally interesting, and funny! I havent gone after stereotypes but I have been really interested in working with old african american blues culture. ALot of those original old blues sing about murder aqnd sex and god and the devil and hoodoo, and in my interpretation that culture/time period is very spiritually potent, with the colliding/blending of such opposite cultures. Ive met spirits from that era and leanred about it before I got validated with alot of historical facts from books.
I would love to go and experiment with its mysticism.

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Originally Posted by Lokia_Zos

I used to (in my more modern chaos magick days) just observe animals, tune into them, it helps if the animal is around. I normally wouldn't even talk about this method, but I worked with it today and found it to be more successful than my earlier attempts a few years ago. It just involves a lot of observation and mimicking until you feel a mental shift. I did this with Chihuahas earlier today.

Normally anymore I use a sigil, or something from my alphabet (of desire) representing the animal...again waiting for that mental shift. I eventually create a representation of an idealized form of whichever animal I'm working with and visualize it on it's own or in conjunction with the above method. I've done this technique primarily with various types of birds (including owl, vulture, and crow), types of cats (panther and housecat), wolf and I think that is the full list. Oh, using that first technique, the one involving observing and such I've also worked with squirrel, penguin, and chihuaha.

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I love that you worked chihuahua. I ve never used sigils before, cool to here about it though in conjuction with animal energy. Speaking of penguin there is a really cool site, Morningstar Essences, with totem info and shamanic essences, (there different than the oils listed, your supposed to swallow 'm)ive never ordered any but their interesting just to read about, the lady really knows her animals. Anyway there is an essence there for Macaroni Penguin:

"For using the emotions as a propellant to bring about desired changes. E-motions are extremely powerful vibratory waves of energy that can be harnessed through the use of this essence. Excellent for those who feel "dead" inside due to having repressed their emotional bodies, eases fears of intense emotions. Very helpful during transits of Neptune, and for those born with their Moon in a water sign (Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces). "

Ring tailed Lemur sounds really groovy:

"Dimensional shifts, choosing new paradigms. Those that love essences that take them "Way out there" will delight in this one. Do not drive or operate heavy machinery while using this essence. "

SHe also makes essences for Hairy Nosed WOmbat, Peregrine Falcon, Pilot Whale, Pink Flamingo,Platypus, Praying Mantis...and a ton of others. Its pretty awsome. Heres the link [url=http://morningstar.netfirms.com/shamanic.html]

Lukia, you're advice is wonderful, but how can someone destroy the patterns that fix in the subconscious, the viruses or other people's perspective being forced upon us and becoming a part of our mind?Ouspersky (I hope I'm spelling it right), or Christofer Hyatt, are they a good choice.
And for God's sake, Harlock, you're scarying me out of ever being near of something even resembling the occult!What should I expect, if I try to hurt someone that I can't touch with physical means, going home and finding my parents dead in a gruesome way, the house destroyed and the police waiting to jail me for something that someone else did?

i have never read such bloody crap in my life.

Emma is a surprisingly smart little Welsh Witch.