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    I'm sorry if I went out of the forums purview. I was trying to help mitaa and since her sister had said she was a demon I thought that would be good place to start. I've heard that to deal with a possessing entity you need to find out why it possessed the person in the first place. I may have went overboard using myself as an example as to why not all demons are evil. Once again I apologize.

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    Has anyone mentioned calling the catholic church? I thought this is what they dealt with? If you visit a priest and explain to him, and perhaps offer a "donation" he might be able to bless some weapons or charms for you. You could at least pick up some holy water. Don't buy it off the internet ... it's usually fake and doesn't work.

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    demons are intelligent autonomous entities, like any spirit being. spirit beings can enter the body, but usually I see them moving around the room and outside, anywhere really, but things do enter the body but I have found unless you activly think about them they are useless as if they weren't there. its a certain way of focusing, like seeing astrological sigils. I don't think spirit beings have much to do with this, alot of it is the way you think and go about life.
    I have seen a thousand thousand civilizations rise and fall upon the Mother of All Things. As pipes play, echoing off the mountains and across the Ocean, until it fades at the edge of time, the end of All... - book of the gate called pan

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    I've been told a possessing demon does not often go out except by much prayer and fasting. I've also gotten the distinct impression the strength of a possessed person is similar to that of someone with adrenaline, and you should expect a need of no less than 6 persons of similar size to hold them down, or similarly strong bindings.

    I also got the impressing the possessing entity would often pretend to be exorcised in order to further manipulate the host and events at a later time, and the majority of exorcisms have no power whatsoever. My own encounters with entities of this sort tell me that the thing I use as default name for God, not the name of some dead language God, or the name of my title, or my authority, or the name I intellectually theorize to be the proper name of God - but the actual name that when I hear it, I think "they are discussing God" - that is the name that saves a person. Obviously a person without faith may say whatever pleases them and still fail. My advice is if you call out a name of God repeatedly with conviction and it isn't working, try something else. Even after you have succeeded, do not cease calling out the name in gratitude for a considerable period.

    I would theorize the most efficient way to get rid of a demon though, is probably pulling out a camera and recording the encounter with the intent of sending the material to James Randi or the local news. Supernatural entities avoid publicity in today's age even more than they avoid their own rivals.

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    looks like i got a lot of points to cover,

    Exorcisms and the Media: I ve learned one thing with general population media and magick, never combine the two, it leads to some disasterous things.

    Exorcisms: Exorcisms are difficult no matter how you do them, and it is a wise idea to find out why they are there but sometimes thats not possible.

    Vatican and exorcisms: the catholic church do exorcisms, it is required by their oath. your best chance is to go to a catholic church supported by the Vatican or find a Orthodox Catholic church. Doing exorcisms should not be done alone. the common way to do exorcisms in the physical is through prayer and people holding them down. Usually 1 person for each limb plus the exorcist. so yes 4-6 man team if you wish to do it right and have an extra hand. Do not attempt one unless youve been trained how.

    Demonkin:go to otherkinforums.net this is our sister site, we can discuss things there. abpit demonkin

    my personal experiances:i was once possessed, after years of practice in the astral, and done at least 12 exorcisms. infortantly i didnt have any "help" from my comrades, they descided to leave my ass for dead, took me over a year to get rid of the thing, and at the end i wasnt the same, my mind and soul were ravaged. my saving grace was a good friend who found me and stepped in and the goddess artemis. without them i would be demon food by now. I ended up having to perform a type of exorcism on myself, and push the thing out. so i have plenty experiance in exorcism. Though i do not consider myself one, i will do my best to help you.

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    First of all let's start by being sure your sister is possesed ,second it she is her demon or spirit(spirits of any kind cand posses a human being not only demons) is weak because she uses mostly physic force and doesn't manifest it self by supranatural abilities.
    You should try some tricks on your sister and see if she responds to your sugestions or not.Take some normal tap water,put it in a bottle preferabily a smaller bottle for dramatic effect,when she gets angry with you splash her with the water telling her is holy water,if she reacts as it's holy water she probabily is suffering by something else and not a possesion (while doing this count in your head so if it is really a demon it will make it harder for it to read your mind),buy a pentragram or a sigil of Solomon and wear it under your clothes don't let anyone see it and see if there is any behavior changes on your sister(avoiding you,or calmer when near you).
    Burn sage in your home if she ask don't give her any reason don't tell her what it is,put salt under the carpet in front of her door without her knowing you did that and observe if she acts wierd while leaving or entering her room.
    I can help you with the little knowledge i have but try this first to see if she reacts to all this things and tell me what were her reactions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ocultlove47 View Post
    First of all let's start by being sure your sister is possesed ,second it she is her demon or spirit(spirits of any kind cand posses a human being not only demons) is weak because she uses mostly physic force and doesn't manifest it self by supranatural abilities.
    You should try some tricks on your sister and see if she responds to your sugestions or not.Take some normal tap water,put it in a bottle preferabily a smaller bottle for dramatic effect,when she gets angry with you splash her with the water telling her is holy water,if she reacts as it's holy water she probabily is suffering by something else and not a possesion (while doing this count in your head so if it is really a demon it will make it harder for it to read your mind),buy a pentragram or a sigil of Solomon and wear it under your clothes don't let anyone see it and see if there is any behavior changes on your sister(avoiding you,or calmer when near you).
    Burn sage in your home if she ask don't give her any reason don't tell her what it is,put salt under the carpet in front of her door without her knowing you did that and observe if she acts wierd while leaving or entering her room.
    I can help you with the little knowledge i have but try this first to see if she reacts to all this things and tell me what were her reactions.
    It had been over a month since the last post in this thread till you brought it back to life. So i would just like to let you know, that mitaa has since contacted keanu reeves and he has dealt with it. So we can relax, its finally over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitaa View Post
    sorry about this, im a religous person. im jewish.but jews and christians share alot of the same beliefs and the old testament. but i think i have been in contact with demons. something horrible happened.
    i dont know alot about demons and dont know about the occult. but i would like to learn more from every point of view and every theory there is even outside the bible or outside jewish beleifs since there are very few jewish beleifs on this and practially no rabbis who beleive demons or the paranormal exhists. unless you get into kaballah but i shun that and that not normal jewish religion most jews do not study this, and the things i have heard from that i dont believe.but again i dont know much about that
    if you asked a rabbi for help on spiritual posession they would direct you to a psychiatrist.
    ignorant i think. and dangerous.

    i am looking a this from your average religous bible learning person point of view that demons are bad, satan causes harm., thats my opinion.
    but i would like to learn more about demons. i know basically nothing on them except that they are monster like and affiliated with satan and he hates god and has done harm..thats all i know thats it and a terribly low amount of information to have. i want to learn more. and know all the theories there are, christian, catholic, occult,pagan,etc..islam,,
    any theories, ill learn as many

    heres why, theres some satanic influence in my life. something is wrong...
    i cant explain but right now and for some time everything is going very bad for me..not your every day things like things that just dont happen.im not going to complain but obviousely gods plan for me is not being met.
    when i say very bad i dont mean boyfriend breaking up,losing a job,being broke or something that dumb or nonsense.i wouldnt want my worst enemy to go through what i went through recently.

    ok well ill start with the first thing...family members are being affected by satan or something bad. my sister is posessed by a demon.. or satan himself. i dont know. it wont tell me its name. someone told me to ask my sister her name. she would not tell me, instead she got furious and started getting into a rage, attempted to get violent... she even drew in stages a demon seal on a door she knows i push to go into a room. she drew it right where you put your hands to push the door open. she drew part and then days later finished it. i looked up online and it looks very similar to a demon seal. i dont even know what a demon seal is or whats its used as. but i saw pictures of them.a symetrical, line and shape drawing, sometimes with arrows or other things. usually with a perimiter around it.
    heres why i think shes posessed. she used to be the nicest, smartest, kindest person, she never got angry easy, she always asked for hugs and would never get violent.we never had sibling rivalry growing up.we never fought and i never did anything big to get her angry and the other way also.we were best friends. she would have drove 10 states away to come get me if i was in trouble. a very caring girl.
    all of a sudden i come home one day and shes changed. her personality was completely different as if another person.she started to become violent within days and get angry severely. she would get angry over everything and little things,even if you said hello.she would get angry fits and curse and throw things. she began to beat me with objects, chairs, curtain rods, whatever was lying around, she broke furniture, doors etc.she would curse at me every time she saw me and scream at me and put me down and say vulgar things to me like that im better off dead and that she will crap on my coffin.she constantly started to tell me to commit suicide.she started to have a heavy presence around her like heavy energy. she is only 5 foot 1 and shes not a strong man, but amazingly she can now lift chairs above her head and heavy tables requiing a few tall men to lift.she lifted the entire thing up really fast. im taller then her and theres no way i can do that.she started to taunt me and break furniture. she knew i didnt want her to do it. so she smirked and kept trying to break the furniture..
    she would get violent and hostile constantly, everytime i see her she curses at me many times and puts me down. i take it with a grain of salt because the old her wouldnt say this stuff. she used to love me alot and be there unconditionally and look out for me as a sister and best friend. theres no way she would have said this stuff to me. and here she is now saying this.it was a drastic sudden change overnight. she curses at me alot now, puts me down, tells me god dosnt love me, she attempted to try to get me to hate god and stop following god, she told me my religion is not worth keeping and we are observant jews so we keep sabath and kosher..we both even went to religous school. but they didnt teach us about paranormal or demons or satan, they just tought us bible stories and jewish holiday laws. like noahs ark,moses etc.. chanukah. 10 commandments
    she even took a hebrew siddur(jewish prayer book with holy words and your not supposed to place it on a floor) she took it and smacked me with it a bunch of times and threw it on the floor in an anger rage.not even caring.
    she tells me god hates me and ill realize what "god" did to me. hmm i dont know what shes talking about. she says things out of context alot but they make sense eventually.she chants strange words, she constantly talks about demons and satan
    Not in an attempt to write off what you have said, but I think your sister needs to find a psychologist. If she is saying things that are not relevant or of use to her... that indicates a problem. This is just my opinion, of course, but you would not want her to become an automaton under the governance of her subconscious influence, would you?

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