Thread: Meditation

Originally Posted by Johanna

It is good suggestion to make sure you fully exhale, not just to prepare for meditation but occasionally as you go about your daily routine. Blow all the stale air out a runner's trick for when you get out of breath from exertion, so when you're huffing and puffing not taking in fresh air on top of stale.

This is the best advice and yes leave the bellows breath to ones who are a little advanced.

Originally Posted by Johanna

It is good suggestion to make sure you fully exhale, not just to prepare for meditation but occasionally as you go about your daily routine. Blow all the stale air out a runner's trick for when you get out of breath from exertion, so when you're huffing and puffing not taking in fresh air on top of stale.

yeh I have been doing that along with stretching the back putting the hands on the top of the door frame and flexing the back lot of crunching and cracking

In the shower is also good when the hot water hits do the stretch against the frame.

Meditation is sitting and listening instead of asking. In my case I can meditate with the world falling apart and not without many hits and misses.

Meditation is not at all simply how you sit and what you do with your body. It's what you do with your mind, but your mind and your body are connected and so you want to put your body into a position where your mind doesn't have to mind it too much, but a position wherein the body isn't comprimising the mind's ability to focus.

But sometimes isn't the process of letting go of the body as well as letting go of the mind ?

I may have quite a differentiated view of meditation compared to what some of you have described.

For me meditation is not the act of sitting for an hour a day, and concentrating on the breath, sensations in the body, or connecting to some higher power. Meditation is not about calming the mind! Yes, a calm, clear, and concentrated mind is neccesary for meditation, but those are not meditation themselves.

For me, meditation is a mental state of complete and undivided awareness. Awareness of what is going on inside and outside the body, and of psychic(thoughts/emotions) and physical(bodily pain/pleasure etc.) sensations. I believe only with this awareness can we as humans reach our full potential, and in order to achieve this we must first start by practicing on the breath, etc. But, the ultimate goal should not be limmited to the hour a day practice, but should continue into every waking and sleeping second.

The ramifications of this practice that leads to awareness are manifold. Only with this increased consciousness can we even begin to comprehend the world in which we live in. Not only do we gain insight into our humanity, and our potential as living beings, but we begin to uncover the orgins of suffering in our lifetime, the end of which is the ultimate achievement, in my opinion.

So, concentration on the breath, and increasing of energy is not the end, but the beginning! Only then does actual meditation start.

This is true. I am one that does not mediate for an hour or more. I must do my mediation before my GD rituals. I do my Alchemical meditations for another purpose. Meditating can be done by sitting quietly, taking a walk in the woods, working with the GD cards, etc. Too much is made on the word meditation. It can mean all things and no thing.

Technically, it's about brain wave changes, lots of ways to induce this and I don't remember the terminology, but when you're successful with meditation your brain wave pattern changes. Since it's a shift from linear verbal thinking hard to use words to say what it, it is a state of awareness and it is more than techniques.

no need to know how to induce the changes in the brain waves that i happens naturally with practice.

There are many different disciplines of meditation that one can choose from.

At any give point one can change from one discipline to another

Quoting Zoomare The ramifications of this practice that leads to awareness are manifold. Only with this increased consciousness can we even begin to comprehend the world in which we live in. Not only do we gain insight into our humanity, and our potential as living beings, but we begin to uncover the orgins of suffering in our lifetime, the end of which is the ultimate achievement, in my opinion.

this is what the ultimate goal is