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    i'm wondering if it would be possible to somewhat unknowingly bring about a servitor through a buildup of energy, desire, need, etc..

    to be more personally specific, one that manifests in dreams.. i am talking about what i had come to view more as a shamanistic animal guide as a child.. that explanation should be fine but what makes me look for another is the fact that after some time and teaching this friend told me it was time for him to go and asked me to kill him.. i want to say he felt guilty while asking me to do this, like it was somehow his or my fault that he had to die.. (my current readings into shamanism have not explained this) anyway, as a child i could not do that to my new best friend, but he insisted.. eventually i may have performed somewhat of a mickey mouse banishment.. and he went away..

    as a side thought, if this were possible my experience might cross over into another thread i saw addressing the idea of learning skills from a servitor.. while creating him (if that's what i did) my intent surely would have been to have him as a guide/scout for my increasing experimentation with lucid dreaming.. i remember a few times i would ask him occult questions and send him off to find the answer.. sometimes it would take him days or weeks.. perhaps less of a teacher, more of a knowledge scout.. though i have no idea where he found such information..

    i appologize for any ignorance, i have explained briefly somewhat in other posts about my repression.. not much of my memories of these things are currently available to me.

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    What an interesting way of looking at servitors...I'll have to have a look and a think about that implication.

    However, for now, Servitors are inherently creatures without will. Think of it more as the crystallized distillation and manifestation of YOUR will. An extension of an essence of you if you please. The creation a of a servitor takes out an aspect of yourself that you wish to enhance or bring manifest and focuses it into reality, so you can work with it or gain benefit from it.

    The reason that a servitor can never have free will is simple...only God can grant true free will to any creature. This was his gift to mankind and what separates us from the rest of the animal kingdom. As servitors are inherently creations of the human mind...free will was never really an option.

    Interestingly, servitors can evolve into Egregors and perhaps into God-forms. Essentially attaining a god-like status. However...they will always be within a defined parameter set. God as we mostly conceptualize him, has no defined parameter set at all...he is that which defines.

    This is one of the fundamental differences with the theological God of the 3 great religions and the Pagan Gods of antiquity...they usually followed a Pantheon of various Gods, all tasked with overseeing the different aspect of reality while the God of Judaism/Christianity/Islam is an overarching single concept that manages it all.

    So don't worry about the free will of your sevitor...you couldn't give him one. This is not to say that you can't lose control of a servitor...your instruction sets and formation must be coherent and balanced, lest chaos slip through the cracks. This does not meat your servitor is rebelling in accordance to his will, simply that it was somewhat half baked.

    ...bit like the guy who wrote on his insurance claim..."I was proceeding safely down the road when all of a sudden this tree jumped into my path..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by suburban_user View Post
    i'm wondering if it would be possible to somewhat unknowingly bring about a servitor through a buildup of energy, desire, need, etc..

    to be more personally specific, one that manifests in dreams.. i am talking about what i had come to view more as a shamanistic animal guide as a child.. that explanation should be fine but what makes me look for another is the fact that after some time and teaching this friend told me it was time for him to go and asked me to kill him.. i want to say he felt guilty while asking me to do this, like it was somehow his or my fault that he had to die.. (my current readings into shamanism have not explained this) anyway, as a child i could not do that to my new best friend, but he insisted.. eventually i may have performed somewhat of a mickey mouse banishment.. and he went away..

    as a side thought, if this were possible my experience might cross over into another thread i saw addressing the idea of learning skills from a servitor.. while creating him (if that's what i did) my intent surely would have been to have him as a guide/scout for my increasing experimentation with lucid dreaming.. i remember a few times i would ask him occult questions and send him off to find the answer.. sometimes it would take him days or weeks.. perhaps less of a teacher, more of a knowledge scout.. though i have no idea where he found such information..

    i appologize for any ignorance, i have explained briefly somewhat in other posts about my repression.. not much of my memories of these things are currently available to me.
    To address your question.

    Imaginary friends.

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    To address your question.

    Imaginary friends.
    Yes...and your point is?
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    well thank you for atleast addressing my question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AEternitas View Post
    here is an advanced technique for servitor creation that I have used. If you use it, feel free to change it as you will.

    This is a sexual method of servitor creation, and is largely and loosely inspired by the techniques practiced by the members of the Fraternis Saturni. The rite requires a few simple tools, some of which can be dispensed with according to the preference and skill level of the magician. A circle should be erected, using salt, natron, chalk or what have you, you'll need a black hilted knife prepared on the day and hour of Saturn, a Chalice filled with a strong alcohol, a single candle, a pin or needle or other such device to prick your finger with, and a large amount of Lunar incense such as Jasmine, camphor, or Myrrh bark. Also, you'll need to have ready a sheet of parchment with the sigil/s of the sevitor spirit painted onto it.
    The room temparature for the rite should be high, and you should be prepared by abstinence, meditation and sexual arousal, ingesting a small amount of hashish may help as well. The rite is opened by the Gnostic Pentagram Ritual as outlined by Peter Carroll ( Gnostic Pentagram Ritual ) This rite is preferable to theurgic rites such as the Lesser Banishing ritual of the Pentagram, as the LBRP and its accompanying symbolism may not be suitable to workings such as these, and may cause a form of internal conflict and anxiety during the rite. Also, such rites depend on the invocation and aid of Divine and Angelic Names, whereas in this rite, all magical force is drawn from your own body and your sexual forces. Though the Gnostic Pentagram Ritual has no direct relationship to actual Gnostic practiecs of antiquity, it suits the rite for two reasons 1) the intoning of the vowels and such subtly awakens the occult power zones and 2) the tracing of the Pentagrams in the four quarters reinforces the circle. In the opening of the rite, this ritual is performed holding the knife in the left hand, tracing the Pentagrams inverse and moving counter clockwise around the circle, in the closing it is performed moving clockwise, while upright pentagrams are traced.
    Well, I suppose I'll get on to the rite itself, which is broken down into five major parts, 1) opening with Gnostic Pentagram ritual 2) Preparatory conjuration 3) Charging of the sigil 4) application of sexual force and 5) the closing of the ceremony and testing of the servitor. Also it should be noted that beneficial servitors should be created on a full or waxing moon, while dangerous and malevolent servitors should be created on a New or waning moon.

    1) Enter the circle and perform the inverse, counter clockwise Gnostic Pentagram Ritual with the Black handled knife(if you have one)
    2) Cast the incense and draw a small circle in the North and sprinkle it with seven drops of the strong alcohol. Begin to evoke the appearance of the servitor using visualization, rhythmic breathing and the mantric use of the U-vowel. The best method is to visualize an astral cord coming from the solar plexus or better the region of the genitals and filling the space just above the small circle and using this as the media to form the image of your servitor.
    3) Having accomplished this, place the parchment sigil within the small circle. Charge the sigil by drawing energy from your heart/solar plexus area, your stomach then your genital region and sending this in a steady stream into the sigil with your hands. You can also draw the energy from each energy center in turn with your left hand, and direct it into the sigil with your right hand. Repeat this process a total of nine times, while breathing rhythmically and repeating the servitors name as a mantra.
    4) While maintaining strict focus on the sigil, slowly bring yourself to an orgasmic climax. Mix the released sexual fluids into the Chalice of alcohol, and use this to soak the sigil. Prick the middle finger with the needle and place three drops of blood upon the sigil and very very carefully dry it over the candle flame (be very careful not to ignite it, hold it well above the flame)
    5) Close the ceremony by performing the Gnostic Pentagram right, tracing the upright Pentagrams in the four quarters and moving clockwise. The presence and strength of the servitor can be tested with a pendulum. The servitor can then be strengthened with more sexual force every monday or friday.
    Excellent ritual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CathyD View Post
    Is there a way of creating a Servitor without forcing ones will onto it?
    There are two different paradigms that are used to create a servitor (and numerous variations of each.) First, there's creation. The servitor did not exist in any real sense before the spell was cast. The action of the magician takes a quantity of raw magic and forms a quasi-living being out of it. The servitor might appear to have an independent intelligence, but it's really just an extension of the magician's own will. "Enslavement" of a servitor of this type is no more meaningful as enslavement of a computer program, Turing test or no.

    The other paradigm is summoning. Rather than creating a magical force, the spell is designed to attract a pre-existing entity that satisfies a set of conditions. Once attracted, the entity may be given a substantial boost of power, and perhaps some extra abilities, but it existed in some form before the magician came along, even if that form was wholely mythical or imaginary. Servitors of this type are also referred to as "daemons." They should not be confused with demons, which are evil (from the POV of a human) supernatural creatures, although it's certainly possible for a demon to serve as a daemon if that is what the magician desires. Now, daemons can be enslaved, tricked into servitude or made to act against their own interests. In fact, for actual demons, this is necessary as the creature's natural instinct is to harm its summoner. For other, non-infernal daemons, though, enslavement is not necessary. A more useful model can be that of an employee. The caster offers to supply the daemon with magic and power in return for its services. The daemon might also demand some other service or sacrifice appropriate to its nature. For example, a daemon in the form of a faun can be "paid" with libations of wine.
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    I have made a few servitores. One of which was accidentally. I was very very upset and fairly lonely and I was painting. I named the demon before I painted it. Kreevosh? Anyway as I painted I let whatever energies I had spill out of me from the tips of my fingers into the brush. I chanted the demons name all the while. I was utterly exhausted afterward and napped for a little while and dreamt about Kreevosh and when I woke up he was just . . . there. I wasn't sure what he was made for but at some point I realized that it was just general. He kept me company. I had someone to bounce ideas off of and he did in fact gather information on things for me. I've been toying with the idea of making another servitore. For research purposes.

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    Waaaaay back in the mists of time, around 1992, I found a course in magick by a fellow named Phil Hansford. In it, he discusses "thoughtforms and elementals", but he was basically talking about servitors. I created one following his method, and it worked spectacularly. I used his method a few times over the years and I once got independent confirmation of the efficacy of the technique. This course is still available online from many sources. Here's one (specifically about creating "artificial elementals").

    The story of getting independent confirmation that this simple method works is worth relating. In 1994, I transferred from the college I was attending in Michigan to an art school in Philadelphia. Because I didn't have time to look for an apartment, I spent a quarter living in the school dormitory. A group of students I had befriended had been screwing around with a spirit board. Based on some extremely negative past experiences with such things, I did not attend these sessions. They had attracted the attention of a particularly nasty entity that monopolized the sessions and actually showed quite a bit of strength by throwing the spirit board planchette across the room and causing actual clouds to form in the room. At least, this is what I was told. Unbeknownst to the group, I created a basic, "robotic" servitor that I called "Hendrix". Hendrix took the form of a metallic armadillo and was tasked with patrolling the room that they used the spirit board in and interrogating spirits as to their names. If the spirit gave the name that belonged to the spirit that had been vexing the group, Hendrix was tasked to deny entry to that spirit.

    "Duh," you say, "all the spirit has to do is lie about its name." I know, I know. It was an oversight on my part. :P Anyway, the next day, I received an account of their session with the spirit board. Apparently, the nasty entity in question had been enraged. It kept demanding to be told who had evoked Hendrix! The group of course, had had no idea what it was talking about. This was a huge step on my path of working magick. It was the first "proof" that I had gotten that it wasn't "all in my head".

    So, yeah, I heartily recommend this Hansford fellow's work.
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    The reason that a servitor can never have free will is simple...only God can grant true free will to any creature. This was his gift to mankind and what separates us from the rest of the animal kingdom. As servitors are inherently creations of the human mind...free will was never really an option.

    An interesting theory, but only true for a certain mind/ belief set. Namely that of a folower of one of the Abrahamic faiths.




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