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    experience that came from the way you saw the world can be traced back to a single idea, that is the paradigm.

    imagine a man entering a shop thinking that stealing is bad, and thinking of himself as a good man. that is an example of the type of man that call them selves, honest. whatever that means. what would that man thought of you if he had caught you stealing that votka. he would thought of you as a bad man, he would judge you. he would hate you, for he wants that votka but he's wife wont let him have it. he obeys his wife, because he wants to be a good husband. he hates her for that. but he must be good to go to heaven. and he made up his mind about whats good and whats bad, found that in the commandments, and decided to do only what is good. he then started judging and hating, those who were not doing his good, for he doubted that there is a haven. if he didn't had doubt he would not judge, he would not hate, he would forgive truly, for he would "know" that he is doing the right thing, and wouldn't feel sad about the fun he's missing, because of the eternal salvation he'll get from suffering as a slave to the good. but why was he a slave to the good? to get to heaven, and not to hell. what is the difference between the two?
    heaven is eternal orgasm, hell is eternal pain. he wants to feel good for a long fucking time.
    his paradigm is obey god, and act like his son, and don't **** with the holy spirit? or not?
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    It's funny how everyone seems to be forgetting the concept of shifting paradigms. If you can shift from paradigm to paradigm at will, this means that it is not necessarily created by conclusions based on experiences throughout time, but your set of beliefs can actually be changed at any time, should the magician so feel inclined.

    (Btw, I'm not referring to just eclectically changing some approaches here and there, but to the actual idea of a complete 'paradigm', that is, a set of beliefs.)

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    I think the reason that I labeled myself as a chaotist is that I hate it when people tell me I am doing this or that wrong and theirs is the only way. I think as part of my personal paradigm I can do rituals from other systems and I only need belief and intent in that system for as long as the ritual lasts. I don't think I, speaking for me only, could switch paradigms completely at will. I think if you construct your paradigm in such a way that it incorporates this flexibility the need to completely shift your paradigm is moot.

    I think I will try to explain a bit of my paradigm and maybe ya'll can see what I mean. I take as my starting point that chaos is not necessarily a bad thing. One can have chaos that brings freedom or imprisonment of the mind and body and either one could be a good or bad thing depending on your point of view. I also embrace the "there is no spoon" concept as I call it. To me that says like in the Matrix movies that we have no real physical bodies and therefore can't be harmed by others or our actions outside our physical bodies. The god forms that I work with the most complement this because they can reweave reality. I have also incorporated the concepts of authors like Maurice Cotterell, Jose Arguelles, Richard C. Hogland, and Gregg Braden. These people don't talk about majick per se but they do show how things work according to the laws of physics which is the basis of all majick whether practitioners want to admit it or not. To me having the concept of how things work is the first step to changing the world. With this knowledge I can see how majickal systems work so I can work within them. That is where the flexibility comes in.

    I think the bottom line of what I am trying to say is that majickal texts are and should not me the only basis for forming a paradigm. Please, all who read this step out of the box of thinking this tome or that grimoire will give you all the answers and study how things work. Sometimes those not majickly inclined have volumes to say on majick if you have ears to hear them.
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    I'm currently in the process of going and creating a sort of paradigm. A new way to look at magick that is original ( so far as I have gone ) in its' creation. A new kind of magick. I'm currently trying to find a way to .... '' frame'' it into a kind of path. Anyone got any information/suggestions on the structure of most magickal paths then I'd appreciate hearing them.
    Those who Fall will find their Heaven
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    the thing about paradigm change is that one must be a blank slate, you enter the new paradign as a noob so to speak, or a fool.
    to create ones own paradigm one must have a base concept. a paradigm can be a way of life no is a way of life, when we are children we are receptive more so than we are when we have found our ground in the world, what tolka said I agree with completely, everything we believe is based on something.
    paradigm shifting is a way of getting that grounding, to learn what is; is to pave the way to the future.

    my advise would be to find the concept that all beliefs share and build from there.
    Man is invited to question, discover, explore,
    and manipulate the world around him and use it for his benefit.

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    Part of the paradigm I am making involves working with a kind of energy that gets rid of the conditioning of the psyche. So the blank slate is already in place.

    I guess that makes sense though. Most forms of magick have some kind of initiation ritual to immerse the mind/soul in the ''current'' of the paradigm in order to erase the identity of the person and make the new paradigm the identity.
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