Thread: Chaos magic general question

What defines chaos magic as chaos magic? What forces do you use to construct and drive the spells? Just curious about a new type of magic.

Originally Posted by arsniclulliby

What forces do you use to construct and drive the spells?

Any, that's the point. Chaos magic is a meta-paradigm. A chaote takes any belief system, even an arbitrarily constructed one, and sincerely adheres to it for as long as it is useful. Shortly put, chaos magic is about stealing magic systems, abusing them and throwing them away afterwards. Among other things.

If you have to ask......

There are no answers in Chaos Magick, just personal dogma that people, myself included, will gladly try to force feed you.

Alternatively, there should be no questions.

i dont know the diffrencs

Like most magical traditions in the western world with the exception of Native American practices, African imports, and pre-Wiccan witchcraft, Chaos Magic came out of Western Cerimonial Magic. Most beginning chaotes learn the LBRP or a variation of it just like cerimonial magicians and wiccans do. A lot of the Chaos Magic books that are out there contain references to older books written about Cerimonial Magic. Some of the things that define Chaos Magic are paradigm-shifting and practices like sigilization.

i get it now thanks .

The simple way to say it Isis it is making something concrete out of something messed up. It can be exhausting at times. I was trained in Eastern Occultism and am just getting to the tip of the ice berg in Western Occultism which as Dion Fortune said anyone can learn. I must say it is quite different from the Eastern practices.

Here's an analogy. You want to water your garden. You have a faucet on the side of your house with a, to all practical purposes, unlimited supply of water, but if you simply turn on the tap, it will flow out all over the ground. This is the Chaos: an infinite supply of magic, waiting to be tapped, but useless and messy in its raw form. So you hook up a hose. Now you can direct the water to the garden where you need it. This is a spell, and the different specialized nozzles are the magickal techniques you might use. The important part is this: the utility of a hose is entirely dependent on limiting the flow of the water. By closing off all other options, you force the water to flow exactly where you want it. This is the secret to chaos magick. A paradigm has a set of rules that dictate what the magick can do, and what it can't. Magick is like any other force. It inevitably takes the path of least resistance. By placing deliberate barriers to the flow, the magick is concentrated and directed precisely into your goal.

If you give something chaotic a definition, it ceases being chaotic. "Chaos" is a place-holder word for something I refuse to try to pin down with words or concepts.

so essentially, chaos magick, is self propogating randomness. as in you can manipulate it any way, and hold it in any manor?