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    Quote Originally Posted by WretchedSpawn
    Eastern faiths have been greatly taken out of context in the media over the past 9 years but then again don't they all who actually talks about the crusades where thousands of people where slaughtered for being not crhistian and the medieval England and salam trails for practicing there own beliefs? isn't this what were doing now the main context of these religions are overlooked ok some people take it too far ill admit but don't people from all walks of life? Sad but yhere originally they all revolve around the same ideas true?
    Well first off, The Salem deal was mostly a convenient chain of "scapegoating", and in those days, the worst thing you could accuse someone of was being a "Witch" or "Dancing with/worshipping" the Devil. (Sound familiar?) As to whether any of them were practicing Witchcraft, I sincerely doubt it, or at least, that there was any earnesty to what was "done".

    The Medevil/Crusade thing is over-played, if that's what you're saying, yes. How about Ghenghis Kahn? An Easterner, who invaded and pillaged! How about current and past Political-social repression's effect on freedom of spirituality? And not just in any specific continent or region. It happens across the globe.

    Communism, Facism, Socialism, political anarchy and upheaval, and even modern Democracy all have their own effects on the polar aspects of religion.

    Humanity would be wise to see the forest for the trees, and learn from history.

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    cool i didnt know any of this. thinxs

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    Thank You all for Excellent comment!

    I have just come from a forum where "evangelical" satanism has overrun the whole site!
    and Its Exactly as you all said!
    there are no moderators over there..so its mayhem!.....and The satanists There "converting" everybody....cannot SEE that what they are doing is exactly the same as what Christians would Do In that context..or whatever. I hope that i am easy to understand . They got into my head a little..accusing me of badly formed concepts, inability to focus rational arguements (on account of I had a different perspective)

    All these things i have seen again and again..from passionate people, Regardless of what religion they are.

    I am delighted to come here to these forums and see open-minded beings, able to Communicate freely, on Important subjects!

    Its Excellent to see such a wide diversity of Religious background!
    (its like being Back in The Theosophy meetings! LOL!)

    you will see as you get to know me..No Boundaries!



    FFF,
    Daniel

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    If we just had one religion wouldn't life be BORING !! Would it not be better to acknowledge other beliefs
    what I think is that it is all one God or Goddess that we praise worship just different names

    the Greeks say it one way the Egyptians say it another way as well as in Latin

    all religions take from other religions to create their own aspect of the new religion

    I guess what I'm trying say that it all comes down to respect of others values and belief and in the end are trying to eventually end up in the same place what ever it's called heaven, Nirvana


    I read all threads to become enlightened in all beliefs

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    My father was a catholic who became an Atheist, my mother was a baptist who became an Agnostic. I am somewhere in between. I do not put too much store by religion, I look at the person and what is within. You are right at the Theosophy meetings we have Satanists, Buddhists, Christians, Atheist and the like. We are all striving to just make sense of this crazy world and must stick together no matter what our beliefs are.

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    I was raised in the eastern faith but I look to the west sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Dunsany
    My father was a catholic who became an Atheist, my mother was a baptist who became an Agnostic. I am somewhere in between. I do not put too much store by religion, I look at the person and what is within. You are right at the Theosophy meetings we have Satanists, Buddhists, Christians, Atheist and the like. We are all striving to just make sense of this crazy world and must stick together no matter what our beliefs are.
    Beautifully put, I totally agree. Like Odin, I also read up on other beliefs to enlighten myself.

    I find Buddhism to be a beautiful religion. The "creation" story is rather intriguing. I'm assuming everyone here knows of it, but if not I can give the short version.

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    I for one would like to hear it if it is not too much touble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Dunsany
    I for one would like to hear it if it is not too much touble.
    Sure, but I am sadly mistaken because the story is not so short. Keep in mind that there may be slightly different versions of this story. Please bear with me.

    Buddha refers to a young prince named Siddattha Gautama who was born in Lumbini (Located around modern day Nepal) in 565 B.C. His father was King Suddhodana of Kapilavastu. Suddhodana felt that in order for Gautama to be a great king one day, he would shield his son from religious teachings and knowledge of human suffering. For the first 16 years of his life, Gautama never knew of the life outside of the kingdom.

    When Gautama was 16 years old, an old woman somehow came through the gates and complained to Gautama about King Suddhodana's newly imposed taxes. While they were speaking, a palace guard shot and killed the old woman with an arrow.

    For a few years, Gautama still contemplated this and it led him to a deep depression. Shortly thereafter he married his cousin, which was arranged. She gave birth to a boy, which fulfilled Gautama's Karma to his father. Gautama left the kingdom and vowed to discover Truth.

    Outside the palace gates, Gautama witnessed death, disease, age, and pain, how the poor vastly outnumbered the wealthy, things that he was previously ignorant of until the chance meeting with the old woman.

    In an attempt to discover Truth, Gautama practiced self-mortification, eating little more than a single sesame seed or a grain of rice a day for about 6 years.

    After, he studied meditation under Alara-Kaluma and Uddaka-Ramaputta then left them to study asceticism, a belief that human suffering is caused by the attachment to the physical body and the mental spirit. He tormented himself in order to achieve separation from this attachment for 6 more years.

    One day, he rested at a grove of trees and a woman offered him a bowl of rice and milk. Gautama regained his strength and sat under a pippula tree vowing not to arise until after realizing the Truth. He then discovered the Four Noble Truths:
    1. The Noble Truth of Suffering - There is suffering and there are also many happy hours and pleasures in man's lifetime, but according to the law of nature, they are impermanent and last only a short time and vanish to nothing. Only sorrow, lamentation, pain, grief and despair are left behind by them.
    2. The Noble Truth of the Arising of Suffering - The origin of suffering: The Threefold Craving leads every being from birth to birth and is accompanied by joy and lust. Specifically, Sensual Craving, Craving for Existence and Craving for Wealth and Power. There also exists a Sixfold Craving, the eye craves for forms, the ear craves for sounds, the nose for odors, the tongue for taste, the body for objects, and the mind for dreams or illusions. The Cravings and ignorance of the law of nature are the origin of individual suffering.
    3. The Noble Truth of the Cessation of Suffering - The condition of mind of a person who has been giving up the Cravings can realize Nirvana. (Extinction of the Cravings)
    4. The Noble Truth of The Path leading to the Cessation of Suffering - The "Noble Eightfold Path"/the Middle Path avoiding the two extremes of sensual pleasure and self-mortification leads to the Cessation of Suffering.

    Gautama became Buddha, "the awakened one".

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    I was told that story by my first Theosophy teacher many moons ago and it still has a powerful impact on me. Buddha is one of the masters that teach and guide in the astral light along with others. Thank you for sharing this as I had not thought about it for a long time. It is still profoundly beautiful.

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