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    My teachings mind manas, body buddhi and atma spirit are the scared three. Body dies , ego dies but the spirit or divinity still exist hanging around while the astral rests. Atma is always as is and corporates a new body along with the lower self. I would like to think this gets more and more evolved and ascends on the hierarchy of which we all hope to rise one day.

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    You have come close to what is truly the reality, except think of the Universal Man as the whole Universe think of us inside this man, and then realize inside of us is beings which rely on us to live. What one does affects the other. Think of the sun as a God, and you can not see him because the light of the sun covers him. Philosophers had hit on the truth when talking of many Gods and all beings made of energy.

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    very interesting philosophies in here infortantly if I replied to them all i would have no time to type my essay for college lol but as far as reincarnation goes I believe that I will be here for quite awhile....but like someone above stated as much as the problems we face suck, I would get rather bored remaining high above or doing work but only behind the curtain...I much rather be the actor in the grand play no matter how small my part is, For then you get to experiance the joys of your hard work even more

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    On what happens after death, frankly i don't know. Tho i suspect that might be it. Game over. Your dead.

    On the other hand I have heard some as of yet unexplainable phenomena which would point towards reincarnation. And so i don't completely discount this idea.

    However even if there was no heaven, hell, or reincarnation and your soul (assuming there is such a thing) died with your body you are still not truly dead. The actions you have taken in life will affect the future in ways we cannot imagine. The universe wastes nothing. You have lived and the universe will not forget. I don't think there is any reason to fear death, you were in a way dead for billions of years before you were born and that wasnt so bad was it?
    "All the moments that we remember for the rest of our lives, the moments of sudden intense happiness, are moments of self-remembering" - Colin Wilson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer. View Post
    On what happens after death, frankly i don't know. Tho i suspect that might be it. Game over. Your dead.

    On the other hand I have heard some as of yet unexplainable phenomena which would point towards reincarnation. And so i don't completely discount this idea.

    However even if there was no heaven, hell, or reincarnation and your soul (assuming there is such a thing) died with your body you are still not truly dead. The actions you have taken in life will affect the future in ways we cannot imagine. The universe wastes nothing. You have lived and the universe will not forget. I don't think there is any reason to fear death, you were in a way dead for billions of years before you were born and that wasnt so bad was it?
    I kinda beg to differ, we were not dead for billions before life, as to have the attribute of being dead, one would have to die and for one to die, one would have to be living. Plus i dont like the idea of just dying as then your consciousness would stop, it would be like just being deleted off of a computer.

    I believe there isn't an afterlife, as that would indicate that i believe that were alive. I feel that you just enter a different state of consciousness.

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    I believe that if you want a afterlife you have to transfer the consciousness that you have now into another world where your body is eternal.

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    I wonder that question now and then?

    I agree with some here I do not really know and I feel that it would take someone to have actually passed over then to actually come back and say hay!! I know the answer to the age old question.

    But to add something I do feel that we have a physical form and another the blue print form connected to the physical which is known as the astral being being one name it is called. That astral self that is connected to realms outside outside of the physical form.

    This is one idea that blue print which is connected to experience outside of the world of matter after all everything is experience.

    I feel that we are eternal rather than immortal.

    As one dies that part called by some the soul or world soul which moves on to another fourm of ourselves. Since matter & energy cannot be created nor destroyed we simply return to the source, rearranged and reborn into another form of existence.

    As to the feeling when someone loses a limb that is that astral self just a thought.

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    an interesting little thread.

    as far as i have been able to learn, reality is alive, and that aliveness can directly relate to an eternal realness. being alive is a part of being real, and ya can't stop being real. we use words like "astral body" and "soul" to try to describe levels of our existence which are deeper than the first appearances of existence which are considered by many atheists as the only existence. it's probably deeper than words can describe, but from a view of a pantheist we're a part of God : the highest level of being. some part of us could be like that, never ending and infinite.

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    Now THERE'S a 'kettle of fish'!

    The "Secret Life of Plants" experiments demonstrate the exsistance of the morphic field before the fertilization of the egg. The amino acid experiments have proven that DNA, and therefore LIFE, is a Rule more than an exception.
    LIFE is the law.
    Having been dead, as well as knocked out of my body for a week at an early age, Yes: There is something that doesn't require the flesh to contain or produce it. It's an energy pattern that appears to be extant, separate and beyond the flesh.
    "Yes, Virginia: There is a Soul".

    There is a simple problem with the current thinking:
    This "Soul Model" has been made to be at odds with what we know to be true about our own physical evolution. The "Soul Comes From On High, and Creates the Flesh" demeans the role our parents played in our conception. It invalidates 304Million Years of Evolution, just from mud-fish to here.
    It also fails to recognize that the path we walked to get to this level of spiritual development is a trail of blood.
    Our evolution is a path of broken & mutated bodies, as we killed each other, and anything else to survive, reproduce, and evolve to this form, this mind, this soul.
    If the soul comes from "On High", it means that murder, rape, and worse are supported by "The True Faith", and self-justify our spiritual path.

    It's the same problem I have with "The Future is Set in Stone" idea of the Akashic Record. If it's all been done, or is being done in an infinite number of parallel universes, what's the point to any of it?

    I may not have all the answers on this one, but are we really asking ourselves the right questions?

    "Even the Prettiest Lie is still just a Lie". ~Ac-ism 30-Something
    Last edited by Azzerac; 02-13-2009 at 05:14 PM.

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    I have had the Book The Secret Life of Plants, it opened my eyes to quite a bit. I could not put it down. I think I will go back and read it again.

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