Thread: should we respect christianity?

Are we going by the premise that spirituality is the "core" or foundational essence of religion? Or, said another way, that what we call spirituality is basically religion stripped of its political/dogmatic trappings and agendas?

Originally Posted by Ghost of Shaolin

Are we going by the premise that spirituality is the "core" or foundational essence of religion? Or, said another way, that what we call spirituality is basically religion stripped of its political/dogmatic trappings and agendas?

I see religion separate from spirituality. Ones sprituality is ones core belif.
However, some see it differently...

That's the stance I've always taken too. That, and the notion that religious devotion in the "organized" sense is essentially an amplified and politicized belief in magick. Which makes it all the more ironic that so many followers of major world religions see so-called magickal systems as being evil and untrue. To me, believing and intending that wine turn to blood in the literal sense is a magickal practice, and the psalms of the New Testament reads like a grimoire. Just my opinion, but I'm sure that at some point, however long ago, they were intended to be spells. Must be nice to change the "rules" mid-game, so to speak.

lol..yes, so true..

The problem here is, that accepting something just for the sake of it, is actually a principle.
A principle is made up in ones mind, through subjective preception and conditioning of the environment. Therefore, a principle is really an illusion, as the keeper of the principle does not question it's validity, but blindly believes it.
Principles , as far as I see it, are dangerous, and keeps the person static, it's destructive to oneself and the environment around them.

I'm glad to see that you agree with me there. Has anyone actually used any of the psalms in that context? Would anyone be interested in trying that out? Hey Light, why don't you volunteer for that? Try Psalms 143 or 58 and let me know how it turns out. As a reward, you can introduce me to Luciferian ideology and practice. A win-win situation for me, huh?

Sorry, not interested in delving into Christianity, lol...
So many other books to read. I have long list and it keeps growing. One has to prioritase, and Christianity is not one of those..hehe..

Yeah, I'm not too interested there either. That stuff is too scary for me! You know, all the talk of murder, rape, slavery, blood sacrifice to whomever, etc. And all that magick stuff with the main character guy working all that sorcery is just waaaaaaaay too far out there! Blasphemer! Although, I probably would have turned those rocks into bread if I were hungry enough. And I could DEFINITELY live with turning water into booze. I'd be a hell of a lot more popular too. Just sayin'...

In the past few days ive begun writing down my feelings and meanings about the christianity.

well yea, christianity should be respected for what it is, a bunch of priests running around banging some small kids within their safe walls, under the safe hands of their pope.

Christianity is nothing but a group of manipulating priests who speak some shitty words they dont even believe in, or live by.
Christianity has in so many generations, well since the medieval, abused and stolen money from the people, even today every man pays a little bit to the priests, like it or not(well at least in DK). Why does the society choose side? they should definetly be neutral about religion.

In primary school every kid, black / white, muslim / satanist has a subject called Christianity, not religion, but Christianity. So every kid is forced to learn about this religion who has tortured our minds to think that we actually die if we has one or more other gods besides "the lord" him self!? and every kid gets the opportunity to get confirmed in the name of god / the christian, in the age of 13! WTF is that all about, get the kids some more time to get his/her life together.

Let me just say this, I hate everything about the christianity, if one of you guys out there is christian then please answer me on this, how can you live with yourself? when you know that the religious community that you support is the reason of so many meaningless bloodbaths. Jews has paid its time, well a lot of times, but i mean, Hitler is nothing beside.

Phenrir

I don't think most christians see it this way , so they have no trouble sleeping at night. The whole idea of christianity, I find, is putting their head in the sand and following whatever someone up top is telling them to do as someone higher up, is commuicating to them, what to say and how to live..lol..so it really is for 'follower' type of personalaties that don't like to take responsability for themselves.
It's hard one to understand, if you are the type that makes decisions based on your own intellectual conclusions, rather than what someone else tells you.

As far as chilldren in schools, parents do have a choise of pulling their kids out of scripture classes. So ultimately the parents have to take responsability of what and who, is teaching their children about spirituality, beliefs, religions, etc.
I do believe, there should be theology lessons, rather than scriputre lessons , as it would then educate the children about different cultures as well. It could become more of a general studies class that could go together with the history lessons, for a broader understanding of the subject. But neutrality would have to be the key, where the class being taught could not have a slant or bias towards any religion or belief system.
This way the children would have a better grasp on things and eventually as adults make their own decisions in what they themselves believe in.

Yeah, personal responsibility and neutrality regarding religious/spiritual matters of any kind seems to be a bit of a sticking point there. We all have personal biases (that's why we like what we like and dislike what we don't), but some folks take that WAY too far in my opinion. Especially when you consider that the vast majority of Christians I know have comparatively little knowledge of how their religion actually came to be, much less a working knowledge of what and how it was originally intended. That being said, most would probably convert to something else in a heart beat if they did know such things. Buddhism, maybe? The Buddha performed miracles too, so maybe they could find some solace in that.