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    I think that the society should be total neutral about religion.

    Call the subject "Religion" not Christianity, and teach our children about other religions.
    Children should'nt get the offer to get confirmed in the christian church, only if the family or the child seek it, and the period of preparation of the confirmation, should be voluntary, and something you can get if you seek it. The school should'nt be involved with this at all!

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    I agree.
    Schools need to stay out of it and start teaching rather than preaching.

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    Christianity is slavery with an elaborate name. Why should I respect the religion that depressed me to the point of suicide? I still have issues with it, but, since asked, if you so desire to respect them, you shouldn't ask us. Just do it. Whether you scream it or express it silently, it's strictly up to you.

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    As long they don't bother me and do not try to "Get me on the good side of life" I'm fine with them.
    I see it like this:
    I will strike down those who dare to insult my own belief so they have the right to do the same to me.
    I also agree with: Phenrir. Schools shouldn't teach about religions but about stuff that matters, you can learn about your religion in church. But the same is for politics and other matters that contribute for the mass.

    The only thing is that they preach to let me hear the voice of god... so... why don't they shut up, be cease now I only hear your voice -_-!

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    The only thing I personally really like to do is to ask questions about the many things of Christians that doesn't match. Take this 2 for example (and/or the one above):

    Fact A:
    If you sin, If you don't believe in god or another god. If you use magick or something like that. You're going to hell and burn for eternity. Says the bible, priests etc.

    Fact B:
    The devil (what god is of heaven is the devil of hell) is the ultimate nemesis for god. So they are in constant war. Says the bible, priests etc.

    Conclusion:
    God is good and the devil is evil.
    If you do something evil you're going to hell.
    Then why should the devil torture you until eternity?
    He is the embodiment of evil so if you sins, he likes it. So if you gonna believe the Christians,
    he's gonna torture you because he's archenemy says so while he actually likes you?
    That sounds wrong in so many ways.
    Last edited by Roxanne26; 02-10-2011 at 09:04 PM. Reason: Extra info
    With the right amount of force, everything will fit.

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    I would like to apologize for any Christian who has ever cheated, hurt, stabbed you in the back, or treated you badly. Really. Truthfully, all Christians succumb to exactly that: sin. If they tell you differently, they don't believe in their own Bible. That is why they all go to church on Sunday: to receive forgiveness for everything they couldn't prevent. It is the goal of all Christians to avoid hurting, cheating, etc. The thing is, they know they can't.

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    Here is the problem, people who follow christianity, for the most part do not even know much about their own religion. They, most, only know what they have been told about it by someone else. Ghost of shaolin even pointed out that they haven't even done any historical research on something they are supposed to base their life on. This being said true christianity has been perverted, anyone who has actually read all of the monotheistic scriptures should know this. For example jesus said to his followers do not build churches, to spread the word the way he did and that he would build his church when he returned. Christianity is nothing more than a path of mysticism. Remember, the whole speech about faith allowing you to perform the same miracles? This is true if you understand that the true base of christianity was actual spiritual work and not going to church every sunday (which by their own religion is a blasphemous day to worship anyway) to give your money over. everyone here is getting mad at a religion when its not the religion its self that is at fault but the evil people who run it and the ignorant people who blindly follow it (or any belief for that matter) that are to blame. I will tell you in all my research I have come back to the same conclusion every time, jesus was a mystic, a mage, a magician trying to push mankind towards ascension. Its really not his fault that some roman emperor would see his followers as a political power tool, remember he formed his own version of christianity and anyone who did not conform were either imprisoned or killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devakxes View Post
    We should respect them. By being bigots, we end up becoming like them - mindless animals in human form.

    However, respecting them does not mean going and allowing them to run us over or tell us what to do. It means co-existing with them. They shouldn't be trying to force their beliefs on us and we shouldn't be trying to force their beliefs on them. Everyone is on their own spiritual path and some may genuinely walk the path of mainstream christian religions.

    I understand the hate though. It isn't easy being condemned and such.
    I also hate the concept of how people claim that goodness comes from God and evil from Satan. Both exist within the human mind and both concepts can be manipulated. Conscience has nothing to do specifically with morality. One does not feel guilt for doing bad, they feel shame. They only feel guilt for hurting another.

    Lavey also encourages people to think for themselves. So don't hold everything he says as truth engraved in stone. As he himself says, he is but a man. He doesn't claim to be divinely inspired by the devil, but by Himself.

    Jesus wasn't originally a christian idea. Before christianity, after Jesus died... there was the Gnostics. After that a couple people ( some of the apostles and high officials) came together to build a church centered around the teachings of christ. The first war in the name of Jesus was on what he was. ''Is he the son of god or is he a lesser spirit?'' Before the Gnostics there was the worshippers of Dionysus, Demeter, Mithra, Osiris, all dying and resurrection deities. The spirit is the same just the personification is different. The true meaning of Jesus is lost because people have perverted his words to mean other things.

    I do not like the god of the jews. I do not like '' The Father'' or Yahweh. But that is my own personal issues. One of them being that I am gay and I refuse to worship a god who condemns love. I also refuse to worship a god who desires prostration. I bow to no one. There are other issues but that is but a few, so I do really understand where you are coming from.
    I do agree with this however....let me do say though, I am not gay but my brother is and I still love him very much. I want you to know god in the christian bible only talked about homosexuality a few times and its not any larger of a sin than having sex out of wedlock. Peoples prejudice have made it a big deal, but the god of christianity does not hate you. I personally believe in a God, but my perceptions of him (i only use him as a more proper term then it, God, however is beyond gender) are far different from the jews, christians and islam. I do believe that they were honest attempts at telling the truth, however, the jews fell to the zionist, the christians fell to the romans/ catholic church (even though other churches broke off, the damage was irreparable), and the muslims to the sunni and shiat (I'm sure I spelled those wrong) which is funny in the fact that their prophets actually did predict that this very thing would happen, "the great deception". All religions understand the true God. Let s look at all of the major ones; hinduism, judaism, daoism, buddhism, confucius, christianity and islam. Hinduism originated in india, having the oldest texts amongst these "living" religions I put it first, its original text in sanskrit. They believe in many gods, including the one God that made them all. Their master god so to say had multiple forms and was both male and female. Sheeva was the popular "mother form" of this god. Hindu and yoga alike believe in akasha, a substance or consciousness where all things were created from. The God of the jews I think needs no explaining. The daoist believe in a source or a creator we have to reach thru spiritual awakening. Confucius was a mixture of chinese philosophies and political philosophies of its time. Buddhism stated that there is no need for a god, but in turn they do believe in a source and that love and compassion emanate from it. Christianity and islam I think also do not need to be explained. In the end I dont care if you believe in a god or not because personally I believe the point of life is spiritual growth. I also believe in letting people do this in their own way, I just wanted to state my opinion on the matter

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    As someone I know is sometimes fond of saying, it is what it is.

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    of course we should respect the christianity.
    You should respect everyone you meet, dont need to like or agree with them, or of any kind bow for their way of spirituel ways.
    Be critic, meet them with a scowling eye, but respect them..

    Respect is important!

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    of course! as i said, Respect is important, and yea it should only be given to those who are respect themeselves/worth respecting.

    But then again, who will give respect to those who arent respecting themselves, what can they give, you would/could respect? Nothing..
    Without respecting yourself, you can not accomplish that big things, and it is most often because of bigger things you respect other people for.

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