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    Default The Weak & The Strong

    I hear some Satanists say that Satanism is not for the weak. They believe in letting the weak die off. But the thing is everyone has their strengths and weaknesses. Also, there is no standard of who’s considered "strong" or "weak", it's all subjective. Even if there was, who are we to decide who’s "weak" and who’s "strong"? So my question is, who do you personally define as a "weakling"?

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    Never underestimate people, let alone enemies or friends, this is a mistake made all too often. For some who would be considered 'weak' in one aspect, could be mighty in another.

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    In my opinion this a very murky subject, mainly because there is no definitive term for strong. There really is only one type of "strong" (meaning no weaknesses) and the best way to acheive this is by becoming "ultimate" master all aspects of everything, not thinking, knowing. If you really wanna know would'nt it be ideal to speak satan and ask it instead of other flawed "weak" (non-ultimate) humans? but this my opinion so.

    hope this helped .

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    There are valid reasons why it isn't for the weak.
    For one, Laveyan Satanism which a lot of satanic cults and philosophies sprouted from... is all based on Survival of The Fittest.

    Now for the other reasons.
    One of them is the concept was already stated, everyone has their own weaknesses and strengths. It is a matter of overcoming those weaknesses that a lot of luciferian/satanic paths are about. This is because the LHP is all about Self-Mastery.

    Another reason is that a lot of people have been too far conditioned to really follow the LHP. Conditioning from society has led us to want to follow ''happy go smile at yourself in the mirror'' religions. They have completely lost touch with the dark half of things and so Satanic/Luciferian religions focus on that part... some of their teachings being very focused on self-discipline (Self-Mastery) and that includes mastering the dark aspects of ourselves... including the chaotic and painful aspects that we don't want to conquer.. our fears... our anger and our lust... etc.

    If you look at the Order of The Nine Angles... they have practices which focus on running 7 miles in a matter of 30 mins or so. I don't remember the exact time frame.

    As with a person with a terminal or chronic illness. These people are indeed weak in one fashion but if they are fighting the illness and rising above it, then they are strong. The Adversary only gives us what we can handle as an obstacle... that we may rise above it. Thus a person with HIV can in one way of thinking... be given a blessing.

    You should read Liber Azazel. That speaks about strength and weakness in depth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devakxes View Post
    There are valid reasons why it isn't for the weak.
    For one, Laveyan Satanism which a lot of satanic cults and philosophies sprouted from... is all based on Survival of The Fittest.

    Now for the other reasons.
    One of them is the concept was already stated, everyone has their own weaknesses and strengths. It is a matter of overcoming those weaknesses that a lot of luciferian/satanic paths are about. This is because the LHP is all about Self-Mastery.

    Another reason is that a lot of people have been too far conditioned to really follow the LHP. Conditioning from society has led us to want to follow ''happy go smile at yourself in the mirror'' religions. They have completely lost touch with the dark half of things and so Satanic/Luciferian religions focus on that part... some of their teachings being very focused on self-discipline (Self-Mastery) and that includes mastering the dark aspects of ourselves... including the chaotic and painful aspects that we don't want to conquer.. our fears... our anger and our lust... etc.

    If you look at the Order of The Nine Angles... they have practices which focus on running 7 miles in a matter of 30 mins or so. I don't remember the exact time frame.

    As with a person with a terminal or chronic illness. These people are indeed weak in one fashion but if they are fighting the illness and rising above it, then they are strong. The Adversary only gives us what we can handle as an obstacle... that we may rise above it. Thus a person with HIV can in one way of thinking... be given a blessing.

    You should read Liber Azazel. That speaks about strength and weakness in depth.
    Well, I'm sure most of these people with these "weaknesses" needed some help to overcome them, so were these people ever "strong"?

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    You have the idea of strength mixed up with the concept of perfection, which with a satanist/luciferian does not exist. How can it when perfection means one is deathless and thus incapable of growth?

    It would also mean one is beyond duality, perfection being a lie as well as being absolutely flawed... thus they wouldn't have a self - because there is one and All which is the ultimate duality.
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    Satanism is not IMHO for the weak minded. Satanism is about enjoying life for what it is and enjoying it. Plus it is referred to as the carnal religion because it believe's in giveing credit were credit is due and punishing those who need to be punished..
    When the devil cries in agony who then comes to his aid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by devakxes View Post
    There are valid reasons why it isn't for the weak.
    For one, Laveyan Satanism which a lot of satanic cults and philosophies sprouted from... is all based on Survival of The Fittest.

    Now for the other reasons.
    One of them is the concept was already stated, everyone has their own weaknesses and strengths. It is a matter of overcoming those weaknesses that a lot of luciferian/satanic paths are about. This is because the LHP is all about Self-Mastery.

    Another reason is that a lot of people have been too far conditioned to really follow the LHP. Conditioning from society has led us to want to follow ''happy go smile at yourself in the mirror'' religions. They have completely lost touch with the dark half of things and so Satanic/Luciferian religions focus on that part... some of their teachings being very focused on self-discipline (Self-Mastery) and that includes mastering the dark aspects of ourselves... including the chaotic and painful aspects that we don't want to conquer.. our fears... our anger and our lust... etc.

    If you look at the Order of The Nine Angles... they have practices which focus on running 7 miles in a matter of 30 mins or so. I don't remember the exact time frame.

    As with a person with a terminal or chronic illness. These people are indeed weak in one fashion but if they are fighting the illness and rising above it, then they are strong. The Adversary only gives us what we can handle as an obstacle... that we may rise above it. Thus a person with HIV can in one way of thinking... be given a blessing.

    You should read Liber Azazel. That speaks about strength and weakness in depth.
    I agree with you! I've always held the opinion that only the strong are willing to rise up to the challenge. Only the strong maintain the eye of the tiger so to speak.

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    the last time men decided who were weak and who were strong caused this the death of about 55 000 000 people
    it's a fallacy. a dangerous fallacy.
    even more because we don't live in a static model world. everything is dynamic. it is true poverty and bad education are inheritable. it is a statistic fact. so the position to be weak you cannot entirely blame on the 'weak'. but even then strong characters can fight their way out of misery.
    then the fact that the former strong can turn out weak. this is described by Thorstein Veblen in his famous work 'The Leisure Class'.

    when you consider yourself as strong, you should try to figure out whether this creates any responsibility? When you are strong - aren't you responsible for the weak in a way or the other?

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    A mote that calls itself strong has yet to witness the infinite void that awaits beyond a sparked sentience.

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