A question about Luciferians? A question about Luciferians?
Donate Now Goal amount for this month: 30 USD, Received: 0 USD (0%)

User Tag List

Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Dislikes Dislikes:  0
Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 34

Thread: A question about Luciferians?

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Dublin.Ireland
    Posts
    24
    Post Thanks / Like
    Points
    1
    Level
    1
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Points
    0
    Donations
    0 - $0.00

    Default A question about Luciferians?

    What is a luciferian and what do they believe? What good books are there about Luciferianism?

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    228
    Post Thanks / Like
    Points
    1
    Level
    1
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Points
    0
    Donations
    0 - $0.00

    Default

    There are a few different Luciferic paths.

    My Luciferic path follows that Lucifer is the god of progress and intellectual inquiry, not only the divine inspiration behind the spiritual enlightenment of the Gnostic and the heretic and the lover of God in all his/her forms.
    Through Lucifer's spirit humanity first climbed down from the trees and has represented the flow of progress ever since.

    But Lucifer may be more than a metaphor for rebellion, enlightenment and advancement - as the pure creative and motive light, Lucifer may actually be the key to life itself . . .

    The DNA within the nuclei of all cells of living creatures contains biophotons or ultra-weak proton emissions - in other words, light!
    A dynamic web of light constantly released and absorbed by the DNA connects cells, tissues and organs and serve as the organism's main communication network.

    Lucifer is on the move inside you and me, chattering between cell and cell, rousing the cohorts of the life-force, keeping us alive and wonderful. Every man and woman is a star - and now we know we have our own inner light.

    The Left Hand Path of my Luciferianism aims to continue the destruction of the unbalanced, collapsed Tree of Life.

    The LHP fulfills and deepens the Fall. The Dark Adept continues the Fall from God to reach individual divinity.
    The reason behind the Fall is often described as being hubris, man's search for knowledge and forces that originally were not meant for him to acquire. The LHP leads to a second birth, a spiritual rebirth as a god.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Dublin.Ireland
    Posts
    24
    Post Thanks / Like
    Points
    1
    Level
    1
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Points
    0
    Donations
    0 - $0.00

    Default

    Thanks very much for the good information.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Europe
    Age
    43
    Posts
    54
    Post Thanks / Like
    Points
    1
    Level
    1
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Points
    0
    Donations
    0 - $0.00

    Default

    Yes, this was very informative and nicely put - can you contact me EtuMalku? I have a few questions for you.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Oklahoma City
    Posts
    58
    Post Thanks / Like
    Points
    1
    Level
    1
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Points
    0
    Donations
    0 - $0.00

    Default

    The blazing darkness of Luciferian skies,
    Upon which no man can safely set his eyes,
    Was meant to be detected by spiritual means,
    Hence remaining unknown to the race of men,
    But the blessed few which exist between
    The Human soul and Heaven,
    Made gods by Sophia, sent
    And manifested as the serpent
    Bearing lanterns of wisdom from the Firmament.

    An ancient and eternal struggle for truth
    Shall be fought on Terrestrial land,
    For the servitude and allegiance
    Of a species created at God’s command.

    Wisdom has won the war
    But the fruit of her labor is yet to be seen;
    For when infinite enemies meet
    On the prophecy’s hill, the promised peak,
    The liberated spirits, they shall purge
    From the Universe the Demiurge.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Posts
    13
    Post Thanks / Like
    Points
    1
    Level
    1
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Points
    0
    Donations
    0 - $0.00

    Default

    I've been studying the Occult for a couple years now and I've noticed that the terms Luciferianism and Satanism are mixed and are used almost synonymously. Can someone clarify the difference between the two for me so I won't be confused anymore. Do Satanists believe that Lucifer exists? And vice versa. How do their philosophies and rituals differ?
    No slave, No master.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Oklahoma City
    Posts
    58
    Post Thanks / Like
    Points
    1
    Level
    1
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Points
    0
    Donations
    0 - $0.00

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Xaeos Mergan View Post
    I've been studying the Occult for a couple years now and I've noticed that the terms Luciferianism and Satanism are mixed and are used almost synonymously. Can someone clarify the difference between the two for me so I won't be confused anymore. Do Satanists believe that Lucifer exists? And vice versa. How do their philosophies and rituals differ?

    They're related, but definitely not synonymous. There are so many subsets under each of the terms that the differences can't be easily and absolutely pointed out. So I can only speak for myself and my own distinction here.

    Lucifer and Satan are indeed the same being. When He is Satan and when He is Lucifer depends upon perspective. To a Luciferian, He is never Satan, Satan meaning essentially "enemy". To a Judeo-Christian, his role isn't really Luciferian, but Satanic. Explaining further, He is Lucifer - the bringer of the light of Wisdom - to those who receive His gift. The Wisdom introduced by Lucifer acts in contrast to the conventional. Thus, followers of the conventional view Him as Satan. He is an enemy of Yahweh, only inasmuch as He aims to aid man in his deliverance from the illusory world imposed by Yahweh.

    So you have a single entity with a single goal, and He becomes Lucifer or Satan depending on how you view that goal. His role as Satan is important, and many (most?) Luciferians look fondly upon the ideas and imagery that have risen from his role as Satan, but it is not our primary focus. Satanism is a religion against something by its nature. Luciferianism is a progression of Satanism - a religion that stands on its own, independent of any other stimuli, for it is the path of those who have understand the need to transcend the lower levels of corrupt creation, on which even the material creator resides.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Posts
    13
    Post Thanks / Like
    Points
    1
    Level
    1
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Points
    0
    Donations
    0 - $0.00

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Great American Desert View Post
    They're related, but definitely not synonymous. There are so many subsets under each of the terms that the differences can't be easily and absolutely pointed out. So I can only speak for myself and my own distinction here.

    Lucifer and Satan are indeed the same being. When He is Satan and when He is Lucifer depends upon perspective. To a Luciferian, He is never Satan, Satan meaning essentially "enemy". To a Judeo-Christian, his role isn't really Luciferian, but Satanic. Explaining further, He is Lucifer - the bringer of the light of Wisdom - to those who receive His gift. The Wisdom introduced by Lucifer acts in contrast to the conventional. Thus, followers of the conventional view Him as Satan. He is an enemy of Yahweh, only inasmuch as He aims to aid man in his deliverance from the illusory world imposed by Yahweh.

    So you have a single entity with a single goal, and He becomes Lucifer or Satan depending on how you view that goal. His role as Satan is important, and many (most?) Luciferians look fondly upon the ideas and imagery that have risen from his role as Satan, but it is not our primary focus. Satanism is a religion against something by its nature. Luciferianism is a progression of Satanism - a religion that stands on its own, independent of any other stimuli, for it is the path of those who have understand the need to transcend the lower levels of corrupt creation, on which even the material creator resides.
    Do I understand correctly that both religions worship the same entity or energy but Satanism is based on destruction and Luciferianism is based on a form of enlightenment and spiritual expansion? Luciferianism is an advanced form of Satanism--more intellectual?

    Very insightful reply, Great American Desert, I've read it several times and I'm getting close to understanding it. --- Are you a Luciferian?
    No slave, No master.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Oklahoma City
    Posts
    58
    Post Thanks / Like
    Points
    1
    Level
    1
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Points
    0
    Donations
    0 - $0.00

    Default

    You do understand correctly. There will be those that disagree with me, but this is the case as I have observed it. I do see it as the more intellectual of the two. It is oriented toward the heavens rather than the hylic, and the advancement of the self is a result of fusion with the All...fusion with the One, or the Monad. It's not about becoming a god, but about becoming God through total immersion - re-entering the sacred vulva of Sophia from whence our maker came, and learning of the mystery of Abraxas and the scope of the grand plenum of Pleroma/Bythos.

    The Luciferian path was begun when the Serpent entered Eden and planted the seed of rebellion, and the plight of mankind since this time has been the decision to embrace the hardships of seeking, and the luxury of ignorance.

    I am a Luciferian Gnostic, or a Gnostic Luciferian; whichever aspect is more important at any given time.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    The Chaotic Void of Azerate
    Posts
    7
    Post Thanks / Like
    Points
    1
    Level
    1
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Points
    0
    Donations
    0 - $0.00

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by EtuMalku View Post
    There are a few different Luciferic paths.

    My Luciferic path follows that Lucifer is the god of progress and intellectual inquiry, not only the divine inspiration behind the spiritual enlightenment of the Gnostic and the heretic and the lover of God in all his/her forms.
    Through Lucifer's spirit humanity first climbed down from the trees and has represented the flow of progress ever since.

    But Lucifer may be more than a metaphor for rebellion, enlightenment and advancement - as the pure creative and motive light, Lucifer may actually be the key to life itself . . .

    The DNA within the nuclei of all cells of living creatures contains biophotons or ultra-weak proton emissions - in other words, light!
    A dynamic web of light constantly released and absorbed by the DNA connects cells, tissues and organs and serve as the organism's main communication network.

    Lucifer is on the move inside you and me, chattering between cell and cell, rousing the cohorts of the life-force, keeping us alive and wonderful. Every man and woman is a star - and now we know we have our own inner light.

    The Left Hand Path of my Luciferianism aims to continue the destruction of the unbalanced, collapsed Tree of Life.

    The LHP fulfills and deepens the Fall. The Dark Adept continues the Fall from God to reach individual divinity.
    The reason behind the Fall is often described as being hubris, man's search for knowledge and forces that originally were not meant for him to acquire. The LHP leads to a second birth, a spiritual rebirth as a god.
    Very well put. Lucifer runs through each and every one of us, whether we embrace this or defy it and keep it locked away identifies us as either Clayborn(those who follow the Demiurge and refuse the Inner Flame) and the Flameborn(Those of us who embrace our true creator). That's how I believe, in my opinion. I am not challenging anyone's beliefs.
    "One should die proudly when one can no longer live proudly." - Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche

    "Only two things the are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not so sure about the former." - Albert Einstein

    "Thought is without a constant formation, so is water; the ability to think by adapting and changing is called genius." - Aleister Crowley

Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. a question
    By thehulk077 in forum Witchcraft
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 01-13-2012, 02:12 PM
  2. just a question for every one
    By MissRachel in forum Off Topic - General
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 02-27-2011, 12:32 AM
  3. Question
    By Gazeeboh in forum Religions & Eastern Faiths
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 08-10-2010, 08:03 PM
  4. Hi I have a question
    By Harry in forum Introductions
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 12-14-2009, 07:43 PM
  5. question
    By spiritus.zero in forum Ghosts
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 07-16-2009, 03:19 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
This website uses cookies
We use cookies to store session information to facilitate remembering your login information, to allow you to save website preferences, to personalise content and ads, to provide social media features and to analyse our traffic. We also share information about your use of our site with our social media, advertising and analytics partners.