Thread: Liber Falxifer

Doesn't that describe just about all of us at one time or another in our lives?
I wish you well on your journey.

Originally Posted by thoth3g

Initially the best advise that I could offer would be to read the pdf!

What is the point of reading in pdf? My opinion is that the book like Liber Falxifer (and similar) is not just random book, it is the book which shapes and builds readers personality and vice versa. Reading it from pdf is useless, unless if you're reading it just for info. Buying a book from someone else, probably from a stranger at e-bay... well, I would not do that.

GS

Graveyardslut,
Interestingly, it is held by many within the sabbatic world that the message is what is important and not the medium of written presentation.
Further, it is also held that the presented written script is not the actual magickal formulae, but said formulae is that which lays between the lines. The latter is that which is read and utilised by the 'Fetch' or the Hidden Mentor / HGA.
I have read the Azotia and found wonders, yet I have seen equal wonders when viewing a picked up stone.
I say try what you can and if it works use it.

But dont copy the Azotia !!

Just my thoughts and best wishes,
Ahrazura

Ahrazura,

I guess I messed up a book's message and a personal interaction with the book, scripture or something similar. Now you have made me to rethink if there is maybe just my personal problem, because even at faculty I had problems with reading from prints or copies. Guess I just love books. So I have to admit: my mistake, as I am just a beginner...
Anyway I'll still have my one book, because there is something that connects me to it, maybe just faster learning

I can understand GraveyardSlut's sentiment. It's good to hold a book and to be able to sit in a comfortable place to read. Of course, one can always print out a .pdf but there is something about that real book smell and feel.

Still, good to get hold of a .pdf when one can't afford beyond their reading habits - or if said copy is out of print.

This in mind, I would be very interested in procuring this tome as a .pdf to check out prior to purchase.

Graveyardslut & Dajai,
You are both correct about a books tangible characteristics being very evocative, it acts as a very worthy point of focus and connectivity to the in-between state.

For an example of what I was saying about the message between the lines;

Crowley's Liber Al vel Legis is on first reflection is a pile of gobbledigook, yet people are given revelation through it even after deep study of it for decades. Crowley even goes as far as to insist that the manuscript is read but only once. I put that down to the notion that as one forgets the detail then the Fetch / Hidden Mentor or HGA will then take over the translation. It is very much like sigil spell casting as in that the working needs to be forgotten to relieve it from the pull of mundane connectivity,

This is obviously only my opinion and others may rightly disagree.

Wassail,
Ahrazura

Dajai,
If you are asking about the Azotia then all I can say is this. A few months ago I was on the Cultus Sabbati's publishing house's web site there was no mention of the Azotia being reprinted in the future. It is also held within the corpus of sabbatic current crafters that the Azotia is never to be copied. A.D. Chumbley is said to have set a demon therein.
I had for a short time a signed first edition of the book. I can tell you that it does have a strange feel and it was with mixed emotion that I gave the book back to my friend.
It is not a book for any pilgrim unless he/she has a pretty good understanding of ethos/mythos and lore of the Arte Magickal.

Best wishes,
Ahrazura

The band Dissection, the members started The Temple of The Black Light. They all ended up killing themselves or each other later on. So it makes sense a demon is in the book.

The lead vocalist of Dissection, Jon Nödtveidt, was a member of the Misanthropic Luciferian Order. And he is the only member who did a suicide. Ex-members started their own bands or start playing with another band. For example, Erik Danielsson and Set Teitan (who are still alive even if they played at Dissection) are indeed TOTBL members and have a band called Watain.

Originally Posted by E-Zads

What?

The only death I read about is the lead singer.
May I ask why?

Why is it that everytime I find a good band to listen to, it turns out they have broken up or are dead?

Probably for the same reason that when many bands "clean up" their music seems to get worse.