Thread: demon names

A little (more than obvious) hint:
Poke Runyon connects the 72 goetia spirits with the 72 Shem-ha-mephoresh angels.
Besides both being 72... seeing them as mirroring each other is wrong.
Above are the actual negative Shem-ha-mephoresh entities as derived by the German Kabbalist Silias. Now this was not a hint anymore, but somewhat more (still without saying everything though).

Thanks for the clues, I ended up googling some of it to get some more insight.... why do people have to make things so complicated is all I can think lol

Originally Posted by Lokia_Zos

The jigsaw puzzle fits nicely. I like the beauty of that concept. But, for me this union of all these selves doesn't really have a place in my scheme of things. I don't see any of these selves as being truly existant in any way. They are basically figments of the imagination, built up by tons of conditioning to believe in a self. But, this is Magick...at least in the more primal sense, there is alot of wonder about the whole process. This is Obsessional to a degree that a certain energy is built up around a thing, to give it some workable degree. Magick can work at levels undetected, and does this often to people who don't really have any connection with the occult. So, these selves through time gain some sort of reality, though one that isn't really real, whatever the hell that means.

So, I don't know why I went on that long ramble. I could have just as easily of said "I say I have more than one higher self based on my experiences thus far with lower selves, and just how there seems to be a pattern in many things. It is both a feeling based on what has been done by me thus far, evidence (though I think evidence is a flimsy excuse for anything) and just by it's simplicity and natural feel. Plus, I think when you have more colors (higher selves) I'll enjoy and appreciate (understand) my painting (life).

I like the idea that the selves are fragments of imagination and that they manifest them selves into reality from the imagination this is very similer to my views on god's and such. I've never really heard much talk of more than one "higher self" but to be honest I think the idea of the higher self has been mixed in with to much "new age" and the origional meaning has been some what lost. To me the idea of the higher self is knowing the whole "self" both angels and deamons.

Originally Posted by Enlilki

Thanks for the clues, I ended up googling some of it to get some more insight.... why do people have to make things so complicated is all I can think lol

That is the way it is Yay for complicated occultism

Yeah, the ideas surrounding the higher self are full of new age concepts. But the very concept itself is pretty old...but I see it as a development that went along with monotheism, and more to the point a certain amount of dualism. This is my problem with it. I really don't like talk of higher or lower, I might prefer something less concrete like skillfull and unskillfull.

Originally Posted by Lokia_Zos

Yeah, the ideas surrounding the higher self are full of new age concepts. But the very concept itself is pretty old...but I see it as a development that went along with monotheism, and more to the point a certain amount of dualism. This is my problem with it. I really don't like talk of higher or lower, I might prefer something less concrete like skillfull and unskillfull.

As a Theosophist I believe that all beings and their higher selves are immortal, the lower personalities are not conscious of the eternal part and our physical, emotional, and lower parts will actually rot and perish. Ain't life complicated sometimes? LOL.

Originally Posted by Lokia_Zos

Yeah, the ideas surrounding the higher self are full of new age concepts. But the very concept itself is pretty old...but I see it as a development that went along with monotheism, and more to the point a certain amount of dualism. This is my problem with it. I really don't like talk of higher or lower, I might prefer something less concrete like skillfull and unskillfull.

It really has been kicked through the mud of the "new age". Skill or maybe results is what it all boils down to in the end, how much progress one is making, all this talk about "higher self" just clouds everything and causes alot of people to get lost in terms rather than making progress.

That said I couldn't really think of a better way to discribe my first point, it's also still a work in progress just something I thought I'd bring up to try and discribe deamon from my personal opinion.

I think we may have gone a bit off topic but oh well.

It dose not matter post as you like

why not listen to your own subconcious for some material? just start making up some interesting sounding names and use them as entities. many "demons" and spirits were created, or rather revealed themselves this way, for example shakespeare's flibbertygibbit. also of interest are japanese shintoist demons and chinese buddhist demons, although i dont like mara vey much. i am also using a demon's name in a story, his name is "brithe" and the character is an old man who tells tall tales. birith is a goetic demon known to be a liar, that's where i got the name.

i have over 100+ of thouse names hun i jest wanted more so i can put more..