Thread: Successful LHP Magicians

i agree with u Harlock

:B the only thing I have to say here is

You forgot one


Annoying* people who want other annoying* people dead.


* = "Annoying" may be substituted for "stupid"

hold your applause. Then place them in the trash receptacle of your choice.

That happened to me recently an person wanted a spell to get rid of another person. I told them I wasn't a hit woman . If I had a dollar for every insane request I received I would not be here, would be in Tuscany in a palace with servants.

Originally Posted by Gazeeboh

Karma isn't real. Especially to the LHP. Bad and Good happen no matter what.

You might not believe in karma but if you tick something off badly enough it might come gunning for you. The karma of causality. There's always a bigger fish.

Originally Posted by Lady Dunsany

That happened to me recently an person wanted a spell to get rid of another person. I told them I wasn't a hit woman . If I had a dollar for every insane request I received I would not be here, would be in Tuscany in a palace with servants.

Ohhh, I'd love to have a vineyard there.

Originally Posted by Vir Sapiens

Sorry pet peeve intruding here , but causality is not karma and karma is not causality. Karma is more or less a concept that people invented because it's comforting to think that people get what they deserve. Sadly this is not true. Actions get reactions. It is a cold mechanism of existence that weighs neither good nor evil.

As for LHP advancement I don't see why not. That sort of development is about coming to a series of realizations about the nature of existence. This is knowledge and knowledge is not dependent upon moral concerns. You either learn it or you do not.

Maybe I phrased my sentence wrong. Yes, Karma does not exist in nature but was created by man in order to feel good about someone doing things. Thus the act of someone doing something bad in the eyes of another causes that person to receive the effect of the one/ones they have wronged or felt have been wronged. Enough people or the right people/thing that feel wronged by that person than something will happen eventually. The level of the effect is measured by the act. Cut me off in traffic...I flip you the bird. But the level of the effect may outweigh the cause. Cut me off in traffic...I send a curse your way and you die in a car crash.

Bornagainsatanist:

I would advise you to drop the idea about forming a pact with anything, the only thing you're doing is hindering your own development. If you want to advance on the LHP you have to remove the idea of any form of Idol above you and instead see these things as the working tools for use in the forge of the psyche. Sometimes it pays to be angry, sometimes its better to be placid, each and every time the most important thing is to have control over yourself and what you're projecting.

The LHP in RHP terms is a path of Self Diefication. It is not an easy path, you will only have yourself as your master and guide but it is the most gratifying in the sense that you will only rely on yourself no matter what happens to you.

Theres a number of very of articles on this site related to this subject, some of the works of Peter Caroll and Austin Spare would be worth your time.

I wish you all the best on your path.

I was wrong...
Apparently when I first posted here, my brain wasn't working and didn't process what "LHP" meant...
I have one more thing to say:

The left handed path is not necessarily evil, wrought with Cruelty and Anger. These are those who fail on the left hand path, seduced and overtaken by the dark aspects.
The darkness is powerful, strong, and chaotic. If you can handle the monsters that hide in the darkness (The outer darkness, and your own.) then the left hand path will reward you with success, fulfillment and power. If not, well. An example I once used was "Those who use the darkness gain strength from it yes, but over time it grows and spreads in them. It eats and eats at the practitioner, until the practitioner has nothing left of them them except the darkness. They run the risk of becoming a shade of their former selves."
Not a completely exact metaphor for what happens to those unfit to travel in the shadows. But it works. I now replace "Darkness" with "Evil" when I repeat this- as my perspective has changed. But eh.


The only difference in my opinion of the Left-handed path to the Right-handed, is the simple fact of preference. Both ways take you across the same journey of inner and outer change, but with different specifications and requirements. I personally have no distinction, I walk on both sides of the road.

My god is this morbid. Gaz you take shame. You can take it as far as you can without making a pact. Karma is usually not necessarily geared towards the person who does the act. I really do not like the word karma, so let us just call it cause and effect. What may happen is instead of you being hurt it could boomerang on someone you love and they pay for your mistakes. Now to go truly far you have to make a pact and forfeit your soul, after you die you are tied to the demon or whatever till they decide to let you go. I have been in the lower astral realm where the shells that are there are begging me to free them, and I can not. It is a personal decision and you are the only one who can make it, no amount of advice will change your mind if you are determine. I do not believe in interfering with any one's life or karma as it will attach itself to me. All I can say is think about it and weigh all the options that is all we can do.

I will counter that last one...and ask you all why?

Why is the left hand path this "Evil" thing within the occult world? Didn't the term originally have to do with Indian Religion, Buddhist and Hindu Tantra?

I'd consider myself on the left hand path, and that means I'm bent towards this idea of self-diety, and I use my passions and desires to actually help me (and at times the world around me) The left hand path is something someone could use with traditionally right hand archetypes, like your Michael the friendly Angel (or Casper). It's about method. I'm left hand path because I glorify myself (a self who's existence I constantly question.) I'm LHP because I have sex with magickal intent. I'd eat a human corpse, if it brought me enlightenment, and I believe it can

What's Satan and demons got to do with it, except it seems that the Western LHP seems to be drawn to these beings because of their free, wild, and dangerous nature?