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    Hi, drugs are cool but they have agendas of their own. If you can use them and get what you want without succumbing to their will, good. However plants and chemicals (lab made) have spirits of their own and plans for you. They give you gifts but take what they want.

    I see with my eyes closed all the time when I'm asleep. Sometimes when I'm just sitting there. You have to look beyond the usual visual distortions. It's like there is a thick black fog of colors and beyond are wonderfully vivid and sharp visions.
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    I suggest some people read the question again. A few have jumped into anti-drug preaching mode. Keep in mind that shamans have been conducting legitimate, drug aided practices for millennia.

    However, even Peter Carroll - a chaos magician who emphasises freedom over dogma, and considers black magic a necessary element of practice - recommends against using drugs. They make you messy. You wouldn't get drunk before running a marathon.


    Anyway - Back to the question at hand. I have had this phenomena happen a few times myself. I find it interesting, as I usually have trouble visualising during meditation, and this happens without me even trying.

    It's happened about 3 times in waking consciousness, and I tried it in a lucid dream the other night. Each time I've been awake I have been in bed about to fall asleep. I don't actually realise I have my eyes closed until I roll over and I see something out of place - eg a different coloured bedside table, with different objects on it. I then take stock that my eyes are actually closed. I can turn my head around and see as though they were opened, although it doesn't last long after I realise.
    In the lucid dream, I cupped my hands over my eyes specifically to test it out. I could still see the garden I was in. Then I completely left the garden environment and had no body. All I could see was an endless flat grid of a single hebrew character, shimmering in black, grey and white. I thought that was pretty cool...

    And before you ask which Hebrew character - it's a secret
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    All debate aside, I've had this experience before as well, accompanied by an energy strobe of my third eye.

    If you want it to happen again under controlled circumstances, my advice would be to get into some energy work and focus on the third eye region.

    To start, energy follows awareness. For a demonstration, take a narrow and sharp knife of any variety, and carefully point it right at your third eye, only a couple inches from actual contact. That area may experience sensations of tingling, burning, hot and cold, itching, or spinning. The theory is that the psychosomatic sensation is partially linked to your actual energy body, and work you do in this area (you don't need a knife) will improve your ability to see with etheric vision.
    The clearer one sees, the greyer the world becomes.

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    I have experienced the same exact thing! But it freaked me out. But now it iterests me.
    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. Love is the law, love under will.

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