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Thread: The West, The Whites, Satan.

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    Default The West, The Whites, Satan.

    Satan.

    What does that name conjure up?
    Certainly a multitude of things that we as humans consider "bad".
    Murder, rape, theft, destruction, the usual fare.
    Satan is in everything, to some degree, as is God.

    But to avoid confusion here, we cannot think in the common understanding of the terms "Satan" and "God". Not deities. Rather, in this case, we should focus on the Satan force as being one of this world, the material, the base that we call matter. God, is to thought of in terms of the universal spirit force, the ether, Brahman the transcendent reality of things.

    Now as I stated we contain a bit of both, some will have more of one than another. But I would like to bring to your attention that the Western nations, the "civilized world", the white (although the east is now infected with the same meme), is so closely in tune with Satanic forces that it's amazing not many people see this (the ones that do are also Satanic but dressed in the mask of God).

    What do we worship as white westerners?

    Money.

    What are our goals?

    To get as much stuff as we can, and then die unconsciously.

    How do we die?

    Begging and pleading for a few more breaths. Undignified and cowards.

    What do we cling to?

    Whatever it is we can touch, something that is sensory and transient.

    I am an American. I will use my own country for an example of the Satanic current. We are obsessed with playing in our own system. Get a good job, a great job, with lots of money for doing things that only serve the system that we set up. Make a good future for yourself, one full of television, entertainment, new shiny cars, a new bigger house (and so much more expensive too!). The more something costs the better it is.

    We buy clothes not to stay warm or express higher concepts, but to show how much money we have. To look good, to decorate our bodies. We spend our whole lives chasing after things that we said we should chase after, material and temporal.

    Even in our relationships to one another, we rarely if ever truly experience the other person. They are there for us, but only superficially, as we are for them. Only major life events such as birth and death can bring us to really being together, and even then it's up in the air.

    As a result of the Satanic lifestyle, we fear death above all else. Death means union with God and we cannot loose our bodies, our identities, our new boat we just bought, our wife and kids who were really more or less symbolic rather than actual relations, but that wasn't realized until the moment of imminent departure.

    Our world suffers too. Satan is self centered and as a result is usually self destructive. In our case, this stands true. We burn down countless acres of the world to make room for our cows so McDonalds can make money. We destroy people and their culture, then either leave them or make a half arsed attempt at patching things up. With expand and grow only to make money and power in our society without realizing that money is something we made up. It is an empty symbol.

    So we stuff ourselves with everything this world as to offer. Our bodies become used to the intoxication, our tolerance grows and grows and the world we inhabit gives everything she has and knows that we are fully prepared, as practicing Satanists, to screw the corpse after we kill her.

    The next time you hear the middle east screaming "America, Great Satan", they are right, but not in their understanding of it. We are Satanic, we are destroying ourselves, any crime is a crime on ourselves as all is connected in the end. This is true of Satan and God as well. We have to unite these forces, like the Chariot or Temperance cards of the tarot. The yin to the yang of the east.

    Marry your Satan to you God and you will be more than the sum all your parts..
    Last edited by Lady Dunsany; 01-13-2009 at 10:04 AM. Reason: language and content

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    Default RE: The West, The Whites, Satan.

    that was ????

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    Default RE: The West, The Whites, Satan.

    Whatever you want it to be.

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    oh ok i get it now. cool.

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    I get the fact that Satan is just a fallen Angel who is misunderstood, wants to see the moon and would actually prefer to live at Malibu.

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    Default RE: The West, The Whites, Satan.

    That's not the Satan I was referring too.

    The Satan your describing sounds more like Lucifer.

    In the old testament, Satan actually works for God. He never rebels. Actually he only really makes an appearance in Job to gamble with God. Satan bets God he can piss Job off enough to make him curse God. God cheats because he knows everything and gives Satan permission to torture his ass. Satan means, adversary, in Hebrew.

    Now, Lucifer, meaning "morning star" or "morning light" wasn't actually the devil, Satan, or any other literal fallen angel. He was actually a king in the old testament. I forget where he was from or what he did, but the Jews didn't like it. So they wrote about him "falling from heaven" and all that. This is taken by most all Christians and modern day popular opinion to be the Devil (who really didn't come fully into play until the church ate pagan ideals)

    The Lucifer of Luciferianism is viewed as a Prometheus figure in a way. Stealing fire from God. He is an enlightened being who broke the rules to get his knowledge. He encourages us to eat from whatever tree we want.

    But when I wrote about Satan, I simply meant it in terms of "The God of this World". Satan is material worship and death worship. Playing with your own **** and zero sum games.

    I apologize if you already knew all that but I felt I should clarify for those who do not.

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    I have a friend who is a Luciferian and it is not what I was referring to. My other friend knew Anton LeVey very well, actually she said he was brilliant talented but he went Hollywood. She sent me a article where he had said he did not believe Satan was real but he used Satan as an idea or a concept. I do not believe Satan is real but that it is a feeling, a goal, a reason for the feelings and yearning for the heights of greatness. However having said this, whatever manifested to our coven talked and had fire power beyond the pall, so perhaps Satan is able to come through another entity. I could write all day but then I would never get anything done, but I know what you are trying to explain. I guess we all have our concepts and experiences so we have to deal with it as best we can.

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    Default RE: The West, The Whites, Satan.

    "Now, Lucifer, meaning "morning star" or "morning light" wasn't actually the devil, Satan, or any other literal fallen angel. He was actually a king in the old testament. I forget where he was from or what he did, but the Jews didn't like it. So they wrote about him "falling from heaven" and all that. This is taken by most all Christians and modern day popular opinion to be the Devil (who really didn't come fully into play until the church ate pagan ideals)"
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    That is quite correct. The Latin is Luxi Ferrer - Carrier of Light. The references to Him in the Bible is so obviously Pagan. There is one for example (can't remember where it is anymore) "Oh, Lucifer, son of the morning"...The sun is obviously the son of the morning!

    And as for Satan, I tend to see Him as the primal (or in modern sense "capitalistic") force that humans cannot and should not deny in themselves. Viewed from that direction, it is not hard to see why Pan was mistaken for Satan by the Catholics. Pan, and some other Hornies, is also a manifestation of the lust and primal desires of man.

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    i agree with you all

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    Default RE: The West, The Whites, Satan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Errata
    "Now, Lucifer, meaning "morning star" or "morning light" wasn't actually the devil, Satan, or any other literal fallen angel. He was actually a king in the old testament. I forget where he was from or what he did, but the Jews didn't like it. So they wrote about him "falling from heaven" and all that. This is taken by most all Christians and modern day popular opinion to be the Devil (who really didn't come fully into play until the church ate pagan ideals)"
    [from Gazeboh]
    That is quite correct. The Latin is Luxi Ferrer - Carrier of Light. The references to Him in the Bible is so obviously Pagan. There is one for example (can't remember where it is anymore) "Oh, Lucifer, son of the morning"...The sun is obviously the son of the morning!

    And as for Satan, I tend to see Him as the primal (or in modern sense "capitalistic") force that humans cannot and should not deny in themselves. Viewed from that direction, it is not hard to see why Pan was mistaken for Satan by the Catholics. Pan, and some other Hornies, is also a manifestation of the lust and primal desires of man.
    Actually, if I recall correctly the name Lucifer is never found within the original holy text. The real name found is Shachar. Lucifer is a terrible mistranslation that was first found within the Vulgate. Lucifer remains innocent. The real culprit king takes the name of the dawn...Shachar.

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