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    Quote Originally Posted by Leviathan View Post
    My understanding of lesser magic is that it is essentially manipulation of others to achieve a desired end. Alot of it has to do, I think, with being able to read people and know how they are going to react to certain stimuli. With this knowledge you can act in a certain way around certain people to reach whatever goal you might have set for yourself.
    Yes, this is another way of saying it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Dunsany View Post
    What is the price for the animal? Is it immortality or is the animal the human lower Manas.?
    I don't understand what you are asking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan_Dread View Post
    Greater magic does not entail anything 'spiritual' There is no trace of spirituality or mysticism within Satanism.

    Satanism is a carnal religion.

    The main goal of greater magic works inward.
    Catharsis.
    Psychodrama.
    The purging of pent up feelings that might otherwise interfere with your behavior and your thoughts, impeding your goals.

    And if the intended target of a curse just so happens to die a horrible death, all the better.
    Also well said, thank you.
    Vos nequeo quiveum nosco. Vos solus nosco quantas illae opto praebeo et quantus illae cado abscondo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Dunsany View Post
    If the intended target happens to be the target of a curse, and dies a horrible death, is it because they were ignorant of this curse and if they were ignorant then the curse did not make them die it was their destiny to die anyway.
    How could anyone possibly claim to know that with a straight face? Why would a Satanist care if it was their destiny or not, beyond getting the desired result? Or out of a desire for abstract knowledge, abstract knowledge that by it's very nature is elusive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stelionis Ignigenae View Post
    I don't understand what you are asking.
    I was asking what are you giving the animal - man what it wants for a price.
    Last edited by Lady Dunsany; 01-07-2009 at 08:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stelionis Ignigenae View Post
    How could anyone possibly claim to know that with a straight face? Why would a Satanist care if it was their destiny or not, beyond getting the desired result? Or out of a desire for abstract knowledge, abstract knowledge that by it's very nature is elusive?
    And if the intended target of a curse just so happens to die a horrible death, all the better.

    I was talking about this line. And if the intended target of a curse just so happens to die a horrible death, all the better. How could one possibly know they are the one responsible for the one who dies a horrible death. I am replying to what was posted . I can get the same desired result in the opposite of what you do and one will always cancel the other out. I am not concerned with what you do or why you do it. I was pondering a thought process and wondered if you could actually answer. Abstract knowledge to you might be elusive but to me it is staring me in the face.
    Last edited by Lady Dunsany; 01-07-2009 at 11:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Dunsany View Post
    And if the intended target of a curse just so happens to die a horrible death, all the better.

    I was talking about this line. And if the intended target of a curse just so happens to die a horrible death, all the better. How could one possibly know they are the one responsible for the one who dies a horrible death. I am replying to what was posted . I can get the same desired result in the opposite of what you do and one will always cancel the other out. I am not concerned with what you do or why you do it. I was pondering a thought process and wondered if you could actually answer. Abstract knowledge to you might be elusive but to me it is staring me in the face.
    Ah, well in answer to your original question, I don't know if such a thing could be known. One could keep records of successes and failures, and try to tweek ones magic rituals to obtain a higher success rate. That would help one gain some reassurance about ones ability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Dunsany View Post
    I was asking what are you giving the animal - man what it wants for a price.
    Certainly nothing illegal. But many people enjoy simple pleasures. The woman who uses her looks to manipulate people to get what she wants is a good example. Her targets get an eye-full, and she perhaps gets that extra-special discount...
    Vos nequeo quiveum nosco. Vos solus nosco quantas illae opto praebeo et quantus illae cado abscondo.

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    Thank You for clearing it all up. I now understand. I am one who does not believe in destiny, but there are others who do.

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