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    Default If you are not a Satanist...

    ...then maybe you should think twice before posting in this section. "Why is that", you may ask? "Aren't my opinions just as good as any other opinion?" Well, to be explicit, no.

    Hear me out, think about this. The people here who profess to be Satanists see the world a certain way, a way that is not common among many other "paths" which would fall under the blanket term "occult". The people here don't think that "everyone is equal", this applies also to opinions. The people here who profess to be Satanists have a certain stake in things like, what is and is not Satanism, what it means to be a Satanist, in what direction the Satanic movement is going, who IS NOT a Satanist and why, and many other things pertinent to the future of the Satanic movement as a whole.

    When you post your opinions in this thread about these subjects, you are in effect giving opinions on a subject that you are very likely to have little correct knowledge of, and little stake in any false information you may be putting out on the internet. You are in effect, harming us, if only very slightly, and making an annoyance of yourself, if only very slightly.

    Now, I am not saying don't post here at all! I certainly don't mind answering honest questions, as I am sure many other Satanists here also do not, but only when I don't have to compete with Wiccans, ceremonial magicians, chaos sorcerers, etc., just to have an honest answer, from someone who ACTUALLY CLAIMS TO BE A SATANIST, be heard.

    If your not a professed Satanist, then maybe, just maybe, you should let someone else handle the questions. And maybe, just maybe, you should lurk more discussions before giving us your two cents.

    Just a suggestion.
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    Although, it should be mentioned that Satanism is a very generalized term. There are different "types" of Satanism, even though most only recognize their form of Satanism as the "true" form. As such, it is important to take that into account when reading the posts.
    Yes this is why I said "profess" to be a Satanist. I realize this board is open to many, and am willing to take a magnanimous position on the "types" of Satanism that are likely to be found here. If I wasn't, I would have just stayed on the message boards closed to the different "types" that I don't like.

    Does that mean you are not allowed to post at Ceremonial Magick because you are a Satanist.
    No, but it would be just as presumptuous, rude, and silly to claim ones opinions are the equivalent of an experienced ceremonial magician based on the sole fact that one professes oneself to be a Satanist. See Leviathans post above.

    could you tell me exactly what True Satanist is ?
    I could, but that would be my opinion, not an objective fact, not to mention a huge waste of my time since I'm sure your just being cheeky in a knee jerk reaction to something my post doesn't actually say. Declaring what a true Satanist is or that different types of Satanism are inferior to mine was not the point of my post anyway.

    The point was to call attention to the fact that a lot of people come to this section and make declarations about what Satanism is, and then turn right around and say, "Oh, I'm not a Satanist, but I've been in the occult community for years", or something like, "I was a Satanist for five years and I know all about it".

    Rubbish.

    Hanging out in the Vatican does not make you a Catholic or an expert on Catholicism, at best you'll gain a rough working knowledge of the Vatican itself. Being a Satanist for a period and then moving on to something else no more makes a person an expert than chopping wood for a fire every year or so makes someone a professional lumberjack.

    I'm sure Wiccans would not approve of me going over to their section and telling people what Wicca is, all I ask is that Satanists receive that same kind of courtesy. I don't think this is asking a great deal at all.
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    Where do the Luciferians talk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EtuMalku View Post
    Where do the Luciferians talk?
    That is a good question.
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    What Satanic Philosophy do you find yourself most closely adhering to?
    Don't talk to familiars

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    To whom are you speaking to?

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    what if you are new and want to know about Satanist becouse you might want to become one and you say the we cant post here that is bull **** i have a Satanist bible that over 100 years old that i read everyday so dose the not make me a Satanist but i am also interested in magick, witchcraft, and all the others that is out their.. i got my Satanist bible from a vimpire friend of mine that cant be found now and the book is out of print cant be found..



    please ignore this i was jest feeling a little bitchey today.. it is becouse i am hurting and not feeling well.... i happend to fall out of a window at a friends house but it felt like i was pushed but i am all right i jest springed my lug and wrist so i am doing this one handed and it is making me mad... if i affend any one i am sorry....

    i am jest feeling a bit bitchey today... sorry again..
    Last edited by isis; 01-08-2009 at 07:36 AM. Reason: jest wanted to let every one know my reason for this post..

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    Quote Originally Posted by isis View Post
    what if you are new and want to know about Satanist becouse you might want to become one and you say the we cant post here that is bull **** i have a Satanist bible that over 100 years old that i read everyday so dose the not make me a Satanist but i am also interested in magick, witchcraft, and all the others that is out their.. i got my Satanist bible from a vimpire friend of mine that cant be found now and the book is out of print cant be found..

    so let me get this if i should take some vires out of this book and place it here that you are jest going to call me a fake and say i dont know what i am talking about.. this is not right to say that no one can post here cause they are not Satanist by your standers this is so fucked up in so many ways and on so many lavels that it is jest plane BULL ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I never said my standards apply. If someone does not profess to be a Satanist, then they are not, by the law of identity, a basic principle of reason. And I'm not saying that people can't post, I'm saying they should be courteous enough to think twice about certain posts. If you profess yourself to be a Satanist, then by all means, join in, lets hear what you have to say about it. If not, then why are you posting here if you don't have a question about it? What are you getting out of it and why should we welcome your participation?

    I can't help but notice the most emotional replies to my original post also seem to be replies to a post I never wrote.
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    People, read the post all the way through before having a fit...

    Quote Originally Posted by Stelionis Ignigenae View Post
    Now, I am not saying don't post here at all! I certainly don't mind answering honest questions, as I am sure many other Satanists here also do not, but only when I don't have to compete with Wiccans, ceremonial magicians, chaos sorcerers, etc., just to have an honest answer, from someone who ACTUALLY CLAIMS TO BE A SATANIST, be heard.
    Vos nequeo quiveum nosco. Vos solus nosco quantas illae opto praebeo et quantus illae cado abscondo.

    The Church of Satan
    Do you want to live forever?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Dunsany View Post
    I know what you mean about being courteous , as i hope all are. I think we have a misunderstanding, as in my case I was not posting my questions to you it was the other poster , but unfortunately as always happens it became extremely confusing. Sorry about that.
    Actually I was replying to isis, lol. Confusing indeed.
    Vos nequeo quiveum nosco. Vos solus nosco quantas illae opto praebeo et quantus illae cado abscondo.

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