Thread: Pseudo Satanists

I posted in the ona thread that the maxim from the grimoire of Lady Sheba
"and ye harm none, do what ye will"
is the exception to the rule
and holy war is mental and does not manifest on the physical plane
I speak of Jihad because the founder of ONA is Islamic now

Originally Posted by chronazon

I speak of Jihad because the founder of ONA is Islamic now

Is this a rumor or has this been verified? If he has actually converted to Islam that throws the credibility of the ONA's complete "history" right out the window. Not that I agreed with him in the first place anyways.

muhammed only criticized the Jews because they would not accept christ, and the quran, although distinctly arabic, was the completion of the trilogy and The Quran is the Gypsy bible anyway, so for those who follow the path of Caine, it is a great protector, although channeled from "a" higher power.
I could imagine Mike Ford saying even though it affirms the Caananites (you'd actually have to have read the bibl;e for that, well what good is that, earth is really messed up, and many people, such as you, doubt everything, higher power aside.

I think, as the KKK's primary founding purpose was to fool and decieve the publikkk, that all aethism, and especially the mental mechanisms that lead to skepticism are in fact products of klan's synthetic cokkke. just what us natives need, more empty headed white people tromping up on the land.



as to the ONA...you have no idea how stupid doubting them is. you have no idea what the seventies were...scum

Originally Posted by chronazon

I think, as the KKK's primary founding purpose was to fool and decieve the publikkk, that all aethism, and especially the mental mechanisms that lead to skepticism are in fact products of klan's synthetic cokkke. just what us natives need, more empty headed white people tromping up on the land.

as to the ONA...you have no idea how stupid doubting them is. you have no idea what the seventies were...scum

This makes absolutely no sense.

Originally Posted by Eretik

David Myatt is Islamic now Starless Aeon,if you believe he and Anton Long are the same person,then this is true.

Mine enemy's enemy is my friend? Islamic militants and Neo Nazis share a common 'enemy' in the Jews,perhaps this is the why of this rather strange seeming conversion?

That might be the reasoning of a dangerous mind.

Mr Myatt is a very interesting personality.

You can read his Islamic thoughts here:

David Myatt: Al-Islam - The Perfect Way of Life

The problem I see is this :

How can one go from founding a group based on the "secrets" of "Traditional Satanism" to then later converting to Islam?

Whether or not they are both enemies of the Christians and Jews is beside the point.

Islam is just as against any form of Satanism, as it views all others religions as forms of Satanism!

Satan (Shaitan) is the enemy of Allah. This would make the ONA a potential enemy of Islam as well. It simply makes no sense.

Satanism and Islam are simply NOT compatible.

Originally Posted by Eretik

Sorry,Starless Aeon,was posting this so didn't see your post.

No problem. Happy birthday by the way.

If one were to read the ONA MSS more carefully they would have noticed there is a lot of information pertaining to infiltrating different belief systems. Whether they are national socialist, Islamic or otherwise. The ONA during personal initiation asks of one to hold differing beliefs (doublethink?) and pursue a second life or career devoted to the opposite teachings of Satanism. I'm not here to argue whether this is beneficial or practical, it is just simply the method that they tend to work with.

As for legality and magick; witches have practiced outside of the law for some time in days of old and it is almost required of one to go against society's values when one embarks upon a life of witchcraft or Satanism. Personally it may be difficult for one to operate outside of the law, but it certainly is no limiting factor.

since the KKK's purpose was to fool and decieve the public, anytime people don't agree, now a days, it is the work of them. I can see how this applies to what was just said about holding differant belief systems. old religoins aere just an artifact of things past, but have a lot of truth, even for satanists.
to do any kind of serious work with negative currents, you must understand them, and religion was created to make society better, not to find the bad things in society, whether you are destroying or diverting them. there definitly is alot written about the Shaitan/devils whatever in all religious texts and many times too, the people TRYING to follow religion do the worst things in society.

Originally Posted by Ulvblod ov Fenrir

As for legality and magick; witches have practiced outside of the law for some time in days of old and it is almost required of one to go against society's values when one embarks upon a life of witchcraft or Satanism. Personally it may be difficult for one to operate outside of the law, but it certainly is no limiting factor.

Going against society's so-called "values" and being a criminal are two different things. I'm not concerned with when witchcraft was illegal in earlier times. I am concerned about right now in the society I live in. Most of the victims of the Salem Witch Trials, for example, were not even real witches. It was Christian propaganda and mass hysteria.

Originally Posted by Vir Sapiens

I honestly wouldn't give the KKK that much credit. I grew up in the south. I met my share of KKK members from the lowest grunt to the highest muckety muck and not one of them seemed to have enough on the ball to actually orchestrate any kind of organized societal disruption. In fact most of them couldn't get through one of their long winded rants about racial superiority without contradicting themselves about fifteen times. I find this to be true of most racist organizations regardless of their doctrine.

On the subject of Myatt I believe he actually made the Mossad's most wanted list, but he's waaaaay down there on it. I remember seeing it in a document that came across the wire a year or so back. I haven't heard anything else about it.

i'm talking about owning mad piles of free money from the slave trade/free labor and owning infrastructure...corporate opiates and creating linker chemicals in everyday food products, thus creating the status quo. You shouldn't have listened to that kind of contradictory logic from them. sounds scary