Thread: Do you think Satanism is just reverse Christianity?

Hail Satan!

Originally Posted by satanictemple

Good question. There are varieties of Satanism, just like there are varieties of nearly every existing religion. One variety of Satanism is "reverse Christianity," and I do not hesitate to label myself as a theistic, "reverse Christian" Satanist. I take the Hebrew-Christian scriptures very literally, and worship Lord Satan as the adversary, the light-bearer, opposed to the oppressive Yahweh/Jehovah/Jesus.

Hail Satan!

I dont personaly see simple opposition as being the answer, for if you state that you are This, but not That are you not reliant upon your opposite to exist as a This at all? For example, when the maggot riddled mess of Xtianity finaly does die for good, leaving humanity to get on with catching up for its mistakes, where does that leave you? With no opposite left to define your beleifs, would you not become the new standard bearer of your own opposer? After all, no one else would give two shits about some dusty old book of rules, or the mumblings of some half remembered Jewish hippy.
Just an opinion.

Originally Posted by Strider

I dont personaly see simple opposition as being the answer, for if you state that you are This, but not That are you not reliant upon your opposite to exist as a This at all? For example, when the maggot riddled mess of Xtianity finaly does die for good, leaving humanity to get on with catching up for its mistakes, where does that leave you? With no opposite left to define your beleifs, would you not become the new standard bearer of your own opposer? After all, no one else would give two shits about some dusty old book of rules, or the mumblings of some half remembered Jewish hippy.
Just an opinion.

Interesting take, and I confess that my worship of Satan is precisely dependent on His opposition to Yahweh. Otherwise, I would see no point. There are two main deities in opposition, Yahweh and Satan, and I side with Satan. Hail Satan!

There were older and much more wiser civilizations back way before the christ era that had many diffrent deitys. Demons are servants of those more higher deitys just as angels are. Satanism is not meant to worship the devil in the christian sence but the devil refers to opossition the dark side of human nature satanism is the fact of embracing life as it is and not worrying about sin all the time it embraces the dark side if you will of human nature so infact it is a great religion.

Originally Posted by grim789

There were older and much more wiser civilizations back way before the christ era that had many diffrent deitys. Demons are servants of those more higher deitys just as angels are. Satanism is not meant to worship the devil in the christian sence but the devil refers to opossition the dark side of human nature satanism is the fact of embracing life as it is and not worrying about sin all the time it embraces the dark side if you will of human nature so infact it is a great religion.

Yup. Though to take things even further away from duality, could it not be that Satan/"the dark side" etc are actualy all there is - beyond the almost microscopic perception that humanity possesses of Cosmos, as we tend to abstract prior to a fuller understanding? ie, there is no right/wrong good/bad or black/white beyond human perception - which is what we should be aiming for to understand such "entities" as they are?
Sorry for nit-picking, just my 2 cents...again

We as humans view the world based on our individual perception of good and bad. What one person views as bad someone else may not so the devil and god are just the good and bad of human nature that is all of us. Plus you got to think that deitys of higher realms don't see things the way we as humans do there is no black and white there is gray they are not concerned with problems in this world. Just a little more input there

It depends. To me, if you believe in and worship the Satan that's in the bible, then you're a reverse Christian. But if you wanna call yourself a Satanist, then go ahead. If you believe that Satan is something else, then you're not a reverse Christian.

Satanism is a lot of reverse everything depending on the particular kind of satanism you end up studying.

Reverse christianity... not necessarily but to an extent yes. A lot of different kinds of Satanism acknowledge Satan and God as concepts/symbols. They more or less worship themselves normally.

Historically speaking, the demons of one culture are the gods of the one preceding it. Within Christianity the examples are obvious, Ashtaroth, Baal, even Lucifer are, as it probably known to mosst of you, dieties of pre-christian civilizations. Christianity is not the only perpetrator, however. There has been quite a bit of evidence to suggest that the Fir Bolg and Formorians of Irish myth were gods to the Pre-celtic inhabitants of the island. The reverse definitions of the terms daeva and ashura in hindu and persian mythology (in ancient persia a Daeva was a demon and an Ashura was a god. In india it is the other way around) are likely due to ancient conflict between the two societies. The trickster spirit Loki is also believed to be a fire diety worshipped by pre-germanic inhabitants of norway. When one culture dominates or wipes out another, it is old hat to demonize their gods. So, in a way one could see certain forms of thiestic satanism as reverse christianity and certain attention getting derivitives of the religion certainly make it seem this way. However, many practicers of both thiestic satanism and other forms of demonolatry are not necessarily even aknowladging christianity but are rather indulging in the worship of pre-christian dieties that have since been demonized by the dominant paradigm. Luciferianism is an example of this. In many ways the discussion is moot. Most satanists do not worship Satan at all and engage in a rational and self-empowering belief system independent from religious thought. As for those that do, whether they are worshipping a pre-christian god or a demon in the christian sense, does it really matter? All religions require one to believe in something that a purely rational mind would reject out of hand. Is it really any person's place to say that one system of religious belief is crazier than another?

Originally Posted by satanictemple

Interesting take, and I confess that my worship of Satan is precisely dependent on His opposition to Yahweh. Otherwise, I would see no point. There are two main deities in opposition, Yahweh and Satan, and I side with Satan. Hail Satan!

So, the only reason to you for worshipping Satan is to go against God? Thats such a waste of time!! You could be directing your energy to Satan, not wasting it on a false God. Your not a theistic Satanist, just a reverse christian in my opinion. Theistics generally believe that He is the driving force, the Chaos, that started this world and just like the Oroborous snake (represents the Big Band/Cosmos), the Chaos will someday "crunch" and we'll go back to Satan...something like that. Basically that He is the Creator and the bible is a waste of time and Book of Lies. But, do whatever you want.