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    I have heard of Diane Vera's aspect of Satanism. As a Satanist I feel that rather than giving into "accepted truths" Satan represents putting all religions to the test.

    Please understand that as a comrade of the Left hand path I am not attacking your character, but sometimes this happens to religions or philosophies.

    Satan's history is in almost all of the world's great religions. Set, O-Yama, Prosperpine, whatever religion is popular at the time there is always an evil imaginary friend/foe to reward the weak people with the good-guy badge. Read Anton LaVey's book The Devil Notebook, the chapter about good-guy badges. Satan never has called for slave worship, like the god of the Jews, Muslims, and Christians.

    I have never had any really spiritual experiences in my life, none from Buddhism, Christianity, Wicca, or Thelema. My conclusion is that sometimes when people are desperate enough in a religion they will see what they want to see. The mind will manifest it if a desire borderlines compulsive.

    Rather than the faith-based god fearing Christians and the Karma-fearing Buddhists our religion should be based on testing theories (sometimes even ones that claim to be Satanic) and come to a logical conclusion about them. The methods she uses are self induced trances that will obviously involve seeing images in the mind, since one will be meditating on Satan before a deep trance induced.

    Scientists have never completely understood why trance images occur in the brain during dreaming or trances, however no recorded people have emerged from these trances with record-able data or powers able to be evident that what they did in the trance-world actually had an effect on the real world.

    If one believes that Satan is a real functioning being then it follows that the fictional god of the Christians, Jews, Muslims exists as well. The only way she dodges it is claiming that during meditation "Father Satan" pleads that he a rather misunderstood fellow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLZBUBB View Post
    Sooooo to dedicate myself to Satan do I also have to become a Jew hating neo-nazi, like these guys? http://www.666blacksun.com/Truth.html
    This site is proliferated with this sort of fascist propaganda. If thats what you believe i suppose more power to you, but I'll enjoy my Satanism with a nice warm cup of rationalism.
    well... tho i personally dislike a broad range of religions..
    christians, jews, moslims, laveyans (dislike laveyans most).. etc etc..
    i dont think that my love for Lucifer has much to do.. with hating jews..
    i dislike those religions becouse they cast such a negative shadow over our kind father... i think its wrong to just becouse you dont want people to pick something.. make it look evil....
    my personal experiances with Him show that he is not a "devil" to everyone...

    than again... its my opinion and my experiances.. and i am just one person..

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    jos may be fascists, but most fascists you will find in the abrahamistic religions.The funny thing is that the bible calls god for:
    Elohim,Eloah,yahweh,allah, Christians says Yahweh, Jews says Elohim, muslims says allah, and Satanists says Satan who is The monotheist?
    The ironi of the abrahmistic religions is that the god of the real hebrews are Baal, who the hyksos identified with Setesh.
    I have made studies if some of the prophets in fact worshiped Satan and not allah.If Joseph (he in egypt not jesus stepfather) were Pharao apepi ( greek Apophis), it is said that Apophis worshiped only Seth.The rabbi rewrote the torah when they were in babylon, can it be possible that the israelites who worshiped Baal (meaning The Lord)were Satanists, If Baal is the advesary of yahweh, then the early jews worshiped a God of Darkness, and war.
    I believe that Shaytan-Shiva-Baal-Setesh is one and same, and that allah-yahweh-elohim is a false god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morningstar View Post
    I call myself a satanist & yet I don't feel the need to 'worship' Satan as of now & hence I don't. The way I do 'magick' is by actually 'doing something'- taking up challenges, testing myself & being the adversary of all my weaknesses, that is the way I worship Satan.
    Of course, I do believe in magick/rituals & in near future I wish to tap into that power. I look at him as my equal or an archetype but I am not a Laveyan satanist. I guess I am more of a spiritual satanist rather than a theistic satanist.
    Which rituals do you use? For some reason, ceremonial magick/rituals don't appeal to me. Diane's website is still good though.
    I agree with this. Satan is a mindset not a being your meant to worship. If such a being were to exist why would he want your worship anyhow? It should be good enough to live for what he represents.

    I performed a ritual dedication to Satan just a couple days ago, I feel much more powerful, and I was able to change some things in my life that needed to be changed. and I can already tell this is the start of a new bette rlif efor me. but i dont think i literally harnessed the powers of a godlike being, more so just awoke energies inside me.

    Thats what Satan is IMO, a force that dwells within us all.


    But I am no expert, so perhaps someday I will get a better understanding. But this is what I see to be most likely thus far.




    satanictemple, i am interested though, could you perhaps elaborate more on what you mean? How are you completely sure Satan is what you believe him to be?

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    I'm not really explaining myself well, I do believe Satan to be real, but just nothing like the common definition of a ''god''

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    Personally I don’t see anything wrong with the swastika turning toward destruction being used as well as nazi propaganda in the name of Satan. I think people need to wake up and see what’s actually going on around them. There is an enemy which must be erased.
    Personally I'm of the notion that Satan is Ea, Shiva, Ptah, Odin. They are all the same pure energy trans-physical deity.
    Satan is simply the only name that truly lumps them all together as they should be.

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    I don't understand why Satan should be linked to neo nazism. Sure, Satan represents Pride. However, Satan to me judges more on an individualistic level than a ''group'' level. I think following ''group'' ideas are exactly what Satan is against... he is all about the individual and raising the individual to superiority.
    Those who Fall will find their Heaven
    and will always be adored.


    In Plaudo Atri Matris!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corbeau de Marais View Post
    Perhaps we can simplify, as required.

    For any who might have considered that it has been suggested that Diane Vera's site and the Joy of Satan's site are "the same people", of course they are not.

    I would imagine anyone over the (intellectual) age of 18, with any capacity for basic undergrad research, would already be well-enough aware of JoS' neo-nazi proclivities.

    Perhaps there is a problem with the way the thread is organised, or people's various communication capacities, but let's clarify.

    Diane's theisticsatanism.com site is in no way related to the Joy of Satan.

    Corbeau de Marais
    Diane Vera's website shouldn't be linking to JoS's, in my opinion. I had a look at Joy of Satan last night, and came away howling with laughter. It's so sophomoric and cheesy!

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    I am bouncing back between Theistic Satanism and Wiccan. I am very confused.
    Curious about the Occult and anything related

    Message me with info and questions.

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