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    Quote Originally Posted by isis
    i like them too but i jest cant seem to get them to talk to me my mom says that i might not belive in them cause you have to belive in them to work.... is it ture do you have to belive in ojia boords in order for them to work cause i do belive in them but they wont talk to me but other then that if a spirit wants to talk to me they will show themselves to me and say my name...
    I can't get them to work either, atleast not by myself. I'm way too analytical. Using the ouija board in a group doesn't necessarily make our subconcious mind more open to the idea of communicating with spirits. It doesn't need help. Working in a group makes our conscious mind more open. If other people are doing it with us, it helps our conscious mind to relax because the "psychic censor" of each person involved can just blame the others for moving the plachette when in reality, it's all of the people involved unless someone is being a dick and moving it purposely.

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    i agree it has happend to me once.. but i am gulde that i am not the only one..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nox Invictus
    Everyone's had scary experiences on the ouija board. I absolutely love them for that very reason. What a great trail and error teacher! It's like AIDS, but with less long-lasting consequences, usually. Haha!

    Here's how the ouija board works: It causes you to make ideomotor actions, subconscious movements that you yourself (or your group) are making. You just don't know it (consciously) because they're subconscious. Your subconscious also has the layout of the ouija board memorized, so you can do it blind folded or without looking at the board, but it's you who is moving the plachette. The question is "Who's moving you?" Theoretically, that is, in occult theory, the spirits with which you are communicating are possessing you, their willing host, atleast partially.

    If you know what you are doing and most people do not. Yes you are right about protecting yourself, but you can not protect the whole house or place you are in. I do not like them as if you want to talk to spirits that badly you do not need a board to do it. You would be better off with automatic writing. I am glad you like them but as I said before you will get an uninvited guest that does not want to leave and then this is where the trouble begins, then it is people like me that get called in to clean house. I also think that the Ouija is more of a parlor game for people who have no idea what they are doing. Just know you have been warned and one day you will understand what we old magickians are talking about. It is not your energy doing this or your subconscious if you do not put your hands on it it will still move. Anyway good luck.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Dunsany
    Quote Originally Posted by Nox Invictus
    Everyone's had scary experiences on the ouija board. I absolutely love them for that very reason. What a great trail and error teacher! It's like AIDS, but with less long-lasting consequences, usually. Haha!

    Here's how the ouija board works: It causes you to make ideomotor actions, subconscious movements that you yourself (or your group) are making. You just don't know it (consciously) because they're subconscious. Your subconscious also has the layout of the ouija board memorized, so you can do it blind folded or without looking at the board, but it's you who is moving the plachette. The question is "Who's moving you?" Theoretically, that is, in occult theory, the spirits with which you are communicating are possessing you, their willing host, atleast partially.

    My advice to anyone using a ouija board would be to make sure that proper protections are in place to prevent the attachment of negative entities or otherwise any harm coming to the participants. The ouija board is a great tool for spirit communication, especially for those of us who aren't skilled in psi-perception.
    If you know what you are doing and most people do not. Yes you are right about protecting yourself, but you can not protect the whole house or place you are in. I do not like them as if you want to talk to spirits that badly you do not need a board to do it. You would be better off with automatic writing. I am gald you like them but as I said before you will get an uninvited guest that does not want to leave and then this is where the trouble begins, thenit is people like me that get called in to clean house. I also think that the Ouija is more of a parlor game for people who have no idea what they are doing. Just know you have been warned and one day you will understand what we old magickians are talking about. It is not your energy doing this or your subconscious if you do not put your hands on it it will still move. Anyway good luck.
    There, I fixed it for you.

    It's funny that you think Ouija is more of a parlor game, because that's exactly what critics of automatic writing say. Automatic writing theoretically works the same way as a ouiji board. You (or just your hand) are acting as a medium. The only reason automatic writing is less likely to attract negative spirits is due to the experience of a person who would use automatic writing. It takes a bit more skill in "suspension of disbelief". You might as well have said "You would be better off using evokation." The whole point of using a ouija board is it's for people who don't have the skills to use other methods, like maybe your friends who don't practice magic. If I wanted to communicate with a spirit, I'd try evokation and scrying, which doesn't require me to channel the spirit. If I had some friends who wanted to communicate with the spirit, I'd use a ouija board, or better yet, I'd use a bunch of index cards with letters on them arranged in a circle around a table with a shot glass as a plachette, no Milton-Bradley devil-board required.

    I've never seen the plachette move by itself, but I've heard of it happening, usually when more negative entities show up. Plachettes moving themselves don't prove that it's your energy that does it and not your subconscious mind. It could be the energy of the entity being contacted, and science has pretty much proven that the ouija board works on ideomotor actions. Even if it was "your energy" that moves the plachette, this energy most likely comes from or is controlled by the subconscious mind. Otherwise, all humans would have access to it at any time.

    I've also never had an "uninvited guest" refuse to leave, possibly because the idea of it comes from the negative stigma surrounding the ouija board and the idea has no more of a basis in reality than you assign to it, possibly because I know what I'm doing. Don't worry. I won't be calling you or any other "old Magickians" any time soon.

    I don't know if you noticed this or not, but part of the reason I like ouija boards is for the same reason you don't. Anyway, thanks for the "warning". lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nox Invictus
    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Dunsany
    Quote Originally Posted by Nox Invictus
    Everyone's had scary experiences on the ouija board. I absolutely love them for that very reason. What a great trail and error teacher! It's like AIDS, but with less long-lasting consequences, usually. Haha!

    Here's how the ouija board works: It causes you to make ideomotor actions, subconscious movements that you yourself (or your group) are making. You just don't know it (consciously) because they're subconscious. Your subconscious also has the layout of the ouija board memorized, so you can do it blind folded or without looking at the board, but it's you who is moving the plachette. The question is "Who's moving you?" Theoretically, that is, in occult theory, the spirits with which you are communicating are possessing you, their willing host, atleast partially.

    My advice to anyone using a ouija board would be to make sure that proper protections are in place to prevent the attachment of negative entities or otherwise any harm coming to the participants. The ouija board is a great tool for spirit communication, especially for those of us who aren't skilled in psi-perception.
    If you know what you are doing and most people do not. Yes you are right about protecting yourself, but you can not protect the whole house or place you are in. I do not like them as if you want to talk to spirits that badly you do not need a board to do it. You would be better off with automatic writing. I am gald you like them but as I said before you will get an uninvited guest that does not want to leave and then this is where the trouble begins, thenit is people like me that get called in to clean house. I also think that the Ouija is more of a parlor game for people who have no idea what they are doing. Just know you have been warned and one day you will understand what we old magickians are talking about. It is not your energy doing this or your subconscious if you do not put your hands on it it will still move. Anyway good luck.
    There, I fixed it for you.

    It's funny that you think Ouija is more of a parlor game, because that's exactly what critics of automatic writing say. Automatic writing theoretically works the same way as a ouiji board. You (or just your hand) are acting as a medium. The only reason automatic writing is less likely to attract negative spirits is due to the experience of a person who would use automatic writing. It takes a bit more skill in "suspension of disbelief". You might as well have said "You would be better off using evokation." The whole point of using a ouija board is it's for people who don't have the skills to use other methods, like maybe your friends who don't practice magic. If I wanted to communicate with a spirit, I'd try evokation and scrying, which doesn't require me to channel the spirit. If I had some friends who wanted to communicate with the spirit, I'd use a ouija board, or better yet, I'd use a bunch of index cards with letters on them arranged in a circle around a table with a shot glass as a plachette, no Milton-Bradley devil-board required.

    I've never seen the plachette move by itself, but I've heard of it happening, usually when more negative entities show up. Plachettes moving themselves don't prove that it's your energy that does it and not you subconscious mind. It could be the energy of the entity being contacted, and science has pretty much proven that the ouija board works on ideomotor actions. Even if it was "your energy" that moves the plachette, this energy most likely comes from or is controlled by the subconscious mind. Otherwise, all humans would have access to it at any time.

    I've also never had an "uninvited guest" refuse to leave, possibly because the idea of it comes from the negative stigma surrounding the ouija board and the idea has no more of a basis in reality than you assign to it, possibly because I know what I'm doing. Don't worry. I won't be calling you or any other "old Magickians" any time soon.

    I don't know if you noticed this or not, but part of the reason I like ouija boards is for the same reason you don't. Anyway, thanks for the "warning". lol
    Good. I will be waiting a pm in a few months. LOL.

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    A question to Lady Dunsany.

    why cant you protect a room or a house?

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    I just found this. You can protect a house as best you can, but the rub is the Ouija Board is not like doing the LBRP before invoking or banishing. These pernicious little entities can get through no matter what you do, it is just a fact. These dark entities come in because they are attracted to the energy of you and it does not matter how much a shield you put around you, they still find a portal. I hope this makes sense.

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    it does. i just wanted to know.

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    You know you can pm me. I do not bite except At full moons.

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    Ouija board is a small wooden board with a pointer, surrounded by letters of the alphabet, used for obtaining alleged spirit messages. It is a variant of the planchette. The questioner places one hand lightly on the board, which is then said to move of its own accord, spelling out answers to questions asked.

    Little is published regarding Aleister Crowley's advocacy of the ouija board. Yet, he had great admiration for the use of one and the Ouija board played a passing role in his magical workings. Crowley also discussed the Ouija board with another of his students, and the most ardent of them, Frater Achad (Charles Stansfeld Jones): it is frequently mentioned in their unpublished letters. In 1917 Achad experimented with the board as a means of summoning Angels, as opposed to Elementals. In one letter Crowley told Jones: "Your Ouija board experiment is rather fun. You see how very satisfactory it is, but I believe things improve greatly with practice. I think you should keep to one angel, and make the magical preparations more elaborate."

    Crowley has stated, of the Ouija Board that, "There is, however, a good way of using this instrument to get what you want, and that is to perform the whole operation in a consecrated circle, so that undesirable aliens cannot interfere with it. You should then employ the proper magical invocation in order to get into your circle just the one spirit you want. It is comparatively easy to do this. A few simple instructions are all that is necessary, and I shall be pleased to give these, free of charge, to any one who cares to apply.

    I personally am not fond of this device but, it does work on the familiar idea and is very similar to automatic writing, the only difference between the two being the absence of the board itself in automatic writing. . Most of the dangers are results of the practitioners themselves. It is a powerful tool in the occult and we would warn anybody who does not know what they are doing to steer well clear of the Ouija.

    It is said dealing with the dangers that most often the spirits whom are contacted through the Ouija are those whom reside on "the lower astral plane". Therefore, many can be violent, negative and potentially dangerous conditions are present to those using the board. Often times several spirits will attempt to come through at the same time but the real danger lies when you ask for physical proof of their existence! What you have just done is simple, you have "opened a doorway" and allowed them to enter into the physical world and future problems can and often do arise.

    Whether one believes in it or not, it is a tool, and as with any tool it takes practice and study.

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