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    Default finding purpose for magick

    I love chaos, i want to use it all the time, its just i can never find a reason too. embuing sigils is a good pass time for me but again I can never purpose for them. my question to the forum is, what do you use them for usually?

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    Default cool idea

    thats a very useful thought, i like the idea of sigils fixing things. how would you word it?

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    It could be used for anything, you face in everyday life. It does not have to be something huge or a turning point in your life. It could be something like: wanting to see something more clearly to make the right decision, with an issue that has come up in your life. It could be you needing more focus when a tricky situation comes up in your life, etc.
    Wheter, it's High Magick or Lower sorcery, it can be part of our lives continuosly..

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    To me magick is a way of life and not just something you do every once and a while when you think you need something. I use it to keep things away that will harm me and to draw people and things to me that will enrich me human experience.

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    I believe that what is considered magick should ultimately serve a practical purpose in the mundane world, at least for as long as we exist on this physical plane. I've personally used sigils to acquire specific amounts of money in a specific time frame, resolve an issue dealing with the title and registration of a vehicle, augment my abilities in relation to astral work, and to increase my abilities with using sigils themselves. I suppose the last example is akin to being granted three wishes and then making one of them a request for more wishes. The point is, I'm still doing things in the "real" world, but using magick as an extra push in the right direction. Although there are limits to what magick can do, I feel the same as everyone else who has responded here in that it should be a way of life and can be used for most anything.

    As far as wording goes, I agree with Isabeau in saying that it depends on what the problem is. Regarding general structure of the intention statement, I usually work with something like "It is my will to/that/for/etc. ______", then fill in the blank with whatever you're intending. Or "I, (secret or sacred name) focus and direct my will and intent to/for/etc. ______", and fill in the blank with your desired intention. You may find it helpful to go into trance and ask your subconscious/deity/spirits/whatever you believe to guide you in clarifying what you'd like to use them for. Some more physical divination using tarot, I Ch'ing, Oracle cards, pendulums or whatever regarding this isn't a bad idea either.

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    My question is what purpose should I focus on as a beginner?

    I want to push for a change that is minor and inconsequential, like changing my hair color while I learn.

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    Well, I guess the easy (or not so easy) response to that question would be to focus on what you want to focus on. We need to remember that magick works through whatever channels are available in the mundane world, so to use your example, if you cast a sigil to change your hair color, you could go and get your hair colored. Technically then, the sigil brought about the desired result. The magick worked, but you were the one who allowed it to work through your own actions in the physical world. Or, like Isabeau mentioned, you could use it to ace a test. You would still likely have to study a bit, but your chances of getting a perfect score would be increased. It's possible to achieve that result without studying at all, but that's probably going to be harder to do at first.

    I might suggest focusing on smaller things as you mentioned, while still taking action in the "real" world to accomplish that particular goal or inspire that change. One of the biggest reasons why money spells and things usually don't seem to work as well as we think they should is because a lot of people think they can rely solely on the magick to do the work. If you want a new job, for example, a spell or sigil cast for that can be of great assistance, but you still have to drop off the job application. If you want to get into better physical shape, magick can help, but you should still work out and do what you can physically to achieve that end. The possibilities are nearly limitless. Make sense?

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    Right, but say hair color is a good example. I see magic as a force used to change the caster.

    So would there be any theories out there saying that some one with strong enough will power can bring about a change in their own body without a separate action?


    Kinda like mind over matter, or in this case one's own bio matter so to speak?

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    I would agree that magick is a force to change the caster, and that's one reason why we need to be at least somewhat responsible with what we do. Negativity can consume the caster even more than the intended target, for example.

    I would say that it is possible to bring about change in the physical body without a separate physical action. I have done this personally regarding illness and other health issues in the past. But, your results will likely be more effective, faster and complete if you do take action in the mundane world as well by working the physical and metaphysical aspects of things together.

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    I would say that it is possible to bring about change in the physical body without a separate physical action. I have done this personally regarding illness and other health issues in the past. But, your results will likely be more effective, faster and complete if you do take action in the mundane world as well by working the physical and metaphysical aspects of things together.
    I agree, but the point of trying to bring about such a change without a separate action is to increase my belief in my abilities and see what I can and cannot do with magic.

    To me, using the will to create minor changes within one's own body seems very possible. Isn't there a form of meditation that allows the individual raise or lower their body temperature at will?

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