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    Hi. Im new to this forum. Lately ive been trying to expand my knowledge regarding sigils and stuff like that, and just read the previous thread about ''writing stories that become reality'' and now it hits me... It seems everytime i make up lies, those lies happen? 4 months ago i was trying to explain something to a friend.. she wouldnt accept excuses for me not wanting to go out. So i made up that my cousin who was widowed the month before has killed himself over his loss and i had to go to the funeral. I made it sound realistic and even imagined it as being true.

    It is true that his wife had died the month before, but not true that he killed himself. A month later he was hospitalized in a psychiatric clinic for not being powerfull enough, taking pills to die, trying suicide etc.. He truly loved his wife and was down. Anyway, Last week he died. Could this be my fault in some way..? Some other things ive lied about before have also happened later on. But these were lesser silly things. Please dont have a go at me for not knowing nothing about the subject of sigils or wishing things, my knowledge on the subject is not much, its probably just me feeling guilty and stupid, but any opinions on this? Thanks

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    coincidenses do happen i think you already answered your own question.
    Man is invited to question, discover, explore,
    and manipulate the world around him and use it for his benefit.

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    Maybe it's time for you to reflect on things and turn a new leaf.
    Lying makes life a lot more complicated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkAntony View Post
    Hi. Im new to this forum. Lately ive been trying to expand my knowledge regarding sigils and stuff like that, and just read the previous thread about ''writing stories that become reality'' and now it hits me... It seems everytime i make up lies, those lies happen?
    "Your thoughts are deeds" - Edgar Cayce

    There's a lot of sources that say that the things you imagine, daydream, wish happen, et et. are all happening on some other plane.
    Whether or not this is true, it's important to realize that it's best to keep your thoughts focused and positive to reap all the benefits life has to offer..
    if you think of bad things often, then that becomes the nature that's most reflective of you.

    Our minds are like vivid... mood rings or something. Your whole surroundings change because of how you think-say-do-characterize... call it your 'aura', call it whatever.

    You're prolly feeling some kind of regret over a possible impact you *could* of had over this guy's life.
    Everyone's pretty inter-connected in a lot of ways, and the dumbest stuff makes a lot more impact than a person can realize... don't beat yourself up over it too much.
    "Whether You Think You Can or Can't, You're Right" -Henry Ford

    “I believe in everything until it's disproved. So I believe in fairies, the myths, dragons. It all exists, even if it's in your mind. Who's to say that dreams and nightmares aren't as real as the here and now?” - John Lennon

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    our brain is a very busy thing. it processes a lot of information we are not aware of. in making up your lie it is possible that your brain accesses the information (also about moods and atmospheres - you probably didn't notice consciously) your brain had collected before 'to make it realistic'. Because lying has a social function our brains are keen in it. (That does not mean I am approving it)

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    I would say these are coincidences. You had nothing to do with this. When we talk about something and it comes true, that does not mean we made it happen. We are not gods. We can't talk about something and it comes true.

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    yes coincidences.. but our brain make it more probable to happen, so that the feeling comes up that this cannot be random occurances

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aradia View Post
    I would say these are coincidences. You had nothing to do with this. When we talk about something and it comes true, that does not mean we made it happen. We are not gods. We can't talk about something and it comes true.
    I'm inclined to disagree....

    Whether or not there is such thing as 'no coincidences' or not, many things have unique purposes -- all is much more interconnected than one realizes -- and there is a particular fascination with this story for this person, is there not? Why would a person feel guilt for a situation like this?

    Sounds like MarkAntony has some reason for feeling like reflecting on this.. and simply wonders if any one else thinks it's worth it or not.

    We're constantly responsible for all that happens around us. The gift of free-will is a heavy, potentially burdensome thing that we all possess.

    *that being said I do not think he's responsible for this particular thing -- but I encourage him to think about why he feels so guilty about it*

    It's hard to definitely say whether or not thoughts/deeds or so much as discussing something *doesn't* have an influence on something. It very much possibly can.

    And when we talk about something -- that is sometimes the second step to doing something.
    You have to think about doing something first before anything.

    Why do you think some refer to the realm of thought as a realm of creation. Because they need each other. You think - therefore you are. So do you create.

    The ability to create gives certain divine properties. One may argue that it is the very essence of that which makes divinity.


    I'm very surprised that an 'occultist' would actually tell someone that a human being is not divine. Channeling godhead? Aspects of higher being, quests for enlightenment? Ghosts and legends?

    You might as well tell him you're wondering if you and him are in the wrong place...
    "Whether You Think You Can or Can't, You're Right" -Henry Ford

    “I believe in everything until it's disproved. So I believe in fairies, the myths, dragons. It all exists, even if it's in your mind. Who's to say that dreams and nightmares aren't as real as the here and now?” - John Lennon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isabeau View Post
    what it also is, we program ourselves and write a chart before we incarnate. the joys, the highs the lows, etc. once we are here we can modify it if we choose, but the experiences are pre programmed. you sensed it would happen because you had already wrote this in your chart in the astral before birth. the other person chose this experience also to experience it with you. it is not that you made it happen here, but it was surely to happen. you can not feel guilty as this experience could very well have been the other person's choice and brought you along with them. as far a being a god, we are all children of God's and this is what i as an Alchemist strives for.

    Beautifully put !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isabeau View Post
    what it also is, we program ourselves and write a chart before we incarnate. the joys, the highs the lows, etc. once we are here we can modify it if we choose, but the experiences are pre programmed. you sensed it would happen because you had already wrote this in your chart in the astral before birth. the other person chose this experience also to experience it with you. it is not that you made it happen here, but it was surely to happen. you can not feel guilty as this experience could very well have been the other person's choice and brought you along with them. as for a being a god, we are all children of God's and this is what i as an Alchemist strives for.
    That's true... everyone has their own personal 'records' to go with the main one so to speak. There's an infinity that exists in all of this, and I don't mean to seem arbitrary in a sense, but only about this : *feeling* is that correlated with free-will, and free-will is over-emphasized by any higher power, lower power, and all in between - and that it is much more important.

    Regardless of what is in your records -- you could cross the veil today and when you pass the bridge from the valley and into the lighter realms, you'll find that the beings there don't always remember who they were in this life... have never looked on their records, nor their age after a point....
    hell, in the darker realms, they're just in agony, pissed off, selfish, and they don't remember how they got that way... just that they are.

    It's heavily based on senses of feeling. You know right from wrong not because a law tells you so -- but because of your feelings and consciousness.

    He's feeling guilt -- therefore regardless of whether or not this was charted for him, the chart is not what's important. It's his job to find out what it is that truly makes him guilty. It might not be guilt entirely... it could be other feelings too. It's pieces of the puzzle that define the soul.

    Why do some of us feel good when we remember our childhood? Others feel terrible relating to this time in their life...
    it defines them because of their feelings. I can't emphasize this enough.

    How will this situation in the end effect you -- make you grow, and evolve, and become even more fluent in love and empathy?

    It can also make you apathetic, and cast aside any care at all... and it could be a rather unremarkable point in your life.

    Infinity of possible ways... it will forever change you if you so mean it to - and that is the gift of free will... the only possession our very soul fires can keep forever...
    "Whether You Think You Can or Can't, You're Right" -Henry Ford

    “I believe in everything until it's disproved. So I believe in fairies, the myths, dragons. It all exists, even if it's in your mind. Who's to say that dreams and nightmares aren't as real as the here and now?” - John Lennon

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