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    I've had a big debate on this for awhile with myself. part of me says yes, jesus died on the cross so we should have respect. But I think I've come to the conclusion of not respecting them. I was in school the other day and I told a teacher about trying to check out the satanic bible at the library. She meanly said i don't want to hear about that. I don't want to hear about your shitty ass religion then. Lavey even says , the parts that I've read, that it's time the devil shouted back. I went to church with my mom today and they kept taking blame after blame on the devil. no, it was your stupid head that put ideas in there, not satan. anyways, thats my thoughts on that subject. and yes I know of the satanic something says don't give opinions unless asked, but if you don't want my opinion then you don't have to read this or respond to it. oh and i forgot, jesus was dumb because he knew he was going to die and die for "our sins". and don't ask me why jesus did a complete satanist move by self sacrificing. if i offend anyone please tell me, I don't mean to come off so strong on jeebus.
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    k plain and simple answer to the question should we respect Christianity...... NO! there easy said and done...and a lil more elaborate....F*** no we shouldn't

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    We should respect them. By being bigots, we end up becoming like them - mindless animals in human form.

    However, respecting them does not mean going and allowing them to run us over or tell us what to do. It means co-existing with them. They shouldn't be trying to force their beliefs on us and we shouldn't be trying to force their beliefs on them. Everyone is on their own spiritual path and some may genuinely walk the path of mainstream christian religions.

    I understand the hate though. It isn't easy being condemned and such.
    I also hate the concept of how people claim that goodness comes from God and evil from Satan. Both exist within the human mind and both concepts can be manipulated. Conscience has nothing to do specifically with morality. One does not feel guilt for doing bad, they feel shame. They only feel guilt for hurting another.

    Lavey also encourages people to think for themselves. So don't hold everything he says as truth engraved in stone. As he himself says, he is but a man. He doesn't claim to be divinely inspired by the devil, but by Himself.

    Jesus wasn't originally a christian idea. Before christianity, after Jesus died... there was the Gnostics. After that a couple people ( some of the apostles and high officials) came together to build a church centered around the teachings of christ. The first war in the name of Jesus was on what he was. ''Is he the son of god or is he a lesser spirit?'' Before the Gnostics there was the worshippers of Dionysus, Demeter, Mithra, Osiris, all dying and resurrection deities. The spirit is the same just the personification is different. The true meaning of Jesus is lost because people have perverted his words to mean other things.

    I do not like the god of the jews. I do not like '' The Father'' or Yahweh. But that is my own personal issues. One of them being that I am gay and I refuse to worship a god who condemns love. I also refuse to worship a god who desires prostration. I bow to no one. There are other issues but that is but a few, so I do really understand where you are coming from.
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    I see no reason to not to. I am good friends with some people who are Christian, one of which who is a priest. I have also completely torn down the faith of others.
    After I deconverted from Christianity one of the things that took me a couple years to learn was to not blame the faith for it is harmless; but rather blame the people who take such a literal and negative approach. Jesus I would label as a good man. Many of his followers I would label as evil.

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    I as well have torn down the faith of others. But I generally don't do that unless someone goes and attacks my faith, then I attack theirs fully and without mercy or remorse. I am not saying my faith is flawless or that it is perfect...<i> it is simply my way</i>

    I myself am a luciferian with thelemic influence. To me my faith is truth. To them their faith is truth. Religion becomes poison when it no longer brings spirituality to the person who practices the religion - then it is dogma and empty ritual.
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    Why should we, as Satanists, respect a religion that has utterly rejected us? Every aspect of their faith counteracts our philosophy. They have killed our people in the past and have made it quite clear that if given the chance, they would do so again.
    As far as Jesus the man, and the Bible is concerned, there are many aspects which do coincide with our beliefs, such as I for an eye. But the current symbol of Christ, which had nothing to do with the original (remember Jesus kick over the money changer table and declared "this is the house of god not market!".), has made and absolute mockery of everything the man taught. I think that people worship the so-called Anti-Christ in this wretched symbol.

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    Respect your enemies or you will be defeated.

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    Laveyan Satanism pretty much says to have respect for people who deserve it. If you think they're ignorant and stupid, they probably don't deserve it. As for the religion... maybe not respect; just don't judge solely on religious beliefs because that's how stupid wars are started. Not that all war is stupid, just the one's that are started for stupid reasons, like religious beliefs.

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    I would not say that Christianity is bad; it is man who corrupts religion with his own subjective interpretation.
    The main reason why Christians would hate/dislike Satanists is FEAR. They know nothing about Satanism apart from the stereotypical nonsense; they follow the path that they have been 'programmed' to take.
    When you fear someone often the reaction is to attack them; you don't really know what to think about them so want them as far away from you as possible.
    The devil is evil/bad because they don't really know anything about him; the only thing they do know is what they have been preached and let's be honest here; most people who follow monotheistic (spelling!) religions aren't really that intelligent in the common sense and sensible department. They are just mindless sheep that can only follow the shepherd. Anything outside is scary.

    I think that Jesus Christ did what he did but it has been people who corrupted his teachings for their own gain. I have always doubted that he died to save people for their sins-sounds pretty convinient to me. I mean what is the point of back-biting, treating people badly, cheating them, using physical violence against someone and then going to church on Sundays to repent for your sins? What exactly do you learn from all this?

    I'm not sure on the other hand of respecting all Christians-certainly not those that put down other faiths, belief systems or lifestyles.
    It is friggin scary how people can become so brain-washed that they would kill/attack someone for being different-it goes to show how weak and poor people are in their minds.

    I think I've gone off topic here so will stop

    It would be interesting to read more opinions on this thread.

    Regards.
    S.

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    uhhh sorry no i wont respect them...FORGET IT!

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