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    Default Noncorporeal Beings

    What do they do?

    I just read some article about how spirits of the leaf people made marijuana in some pact with the crystal people in an effort to harvest human thoughts and emotions for a glowing pi symbol in the leaf realm.

    Thats cool, and you should read it too. But..

    What is the point? What are they doing? Is the spirit world the same as ours but with different flavors, new shiny things, bizzare locations and wrong physics? Are they really just as boring as we are, toiling away and working their spiritual asses off for some goal oriented task?

    The most prevelant theory is that they all want a piece of the physical. They all want in, or at least to have a role to play from the sidelines. They usually use us, humans, to achieve this aim. They give us wonderful gifts and most are a distraction while they do there work through us.

    Invocation, evocation. Do we just call them here for a little trading. You scratch my hairy monkey back and i'll scratch your ectoplasm?

    What are you thoughts on the aims of the spirit world? Are they up to something totally mind blowing and incomprehensible to us silly men and women, or are they really not so different?

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    Default RE: Noncorporeal Beings

    The spirit world is a difficult subject to discuss intelligently simply because we know so little about that aspect of life. I can only speculate so bear with me. I think spirit beings are very similar to us in that there are benevolent ones, malevolent ones, and indifferent ones. Wherever you go in this universe control and manipulation are there and since we can assume that spirits are very powerful and intelligent beings, a certain amount of trepidation overcomes me whenever I think about such things because I know how dumb I am.

    Intriguing insight about the origins of marijuana, Gaz. Where can I read more?
    Last edited by OneSixTheAntiVirus; 01-08-2009 at 09:50 AM.

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    Thanks guys. Your input is wonderful.

    I read it on RealitySandwich

    http://www.realitysandwich.com/green...world_part_1_2

    So, human ghosts I can see going on to be humans. At least until they turn into something else, like a demi-god or toad (which might be the same thing from an archetypal point of view)

    But the other spirits, the ones who aren't in our physical reality, do the same stuff as us?

    Maybe I'm getting it wrong. Maybe they aren't "un physical". I think more likely, that they are just on another level, higher vibes or something hokey like that. Maybe we aren't quite real to them, just some whispy ghost stuffs, while thier world is the most solid and real.

    Once I look at it like that it makes a bit more sense. But still....

    Is there no reality that is so mind blowingly different from our own? Are they all full of work in such a familiar fashion? Are they all so goal oriented? Is there not some far flung existence that has nothing to do with anything we can concieve of?

    I guess we can't tell, because if we could, then it would be known.

    Ugh

    What are you guys up to after you die?
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    I'm sorry, but everytime I see this all I can think of is 'CORPOREAL JIGSORE QUANDRY', I had to mention it.

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    I never got into that stuff. Just metal. Now I just like sexy music and most recently I'm enjoying Eagles of Death Metal "Heart On" maybe a bit too much. You really haven't seen sexy until you have seen their singer Boots Electric.

    Do you think other world guys dig music?
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    I think OneSixTheAntiVirus nailed it. There's some interesting ideas in Chinese mythology about every spirit have a rank and a function in a formally organized Celestial Bureaucracy. It was said that the bureaucratic systems of the Chinese Empires were modeled after those in Heaven and that it was Heaven who gave its authority for the Emperor to rule.

    So this means that every god had another god it answered to, and others it had to look after and provide for. If a spirit did something it wasn't supposed to do, it was its superiors' duty to deal with it.

    There's a fascinating tidbit from Japan regarding a kitsune (fox spirit) where Toyotomi Hideyoshi, a high government official, wrote a letter to Inari (the Japanese kami of fertility, rice, agriculture, foxes, industry, and worldly success).

    To Inari Daimyojin,

    My lord, I have the honor to inform you that one of the foxes under your jurisdiction has bewitched one of my servants, causing her and others a great deal of trouble. I have to request that you make minute inquiries into the matter, and endeavor to find out the reason of your subject misbehaving in this way, and let me know the result.

    If it turns out that the fox has no adequate reason to give for his behavior, you are to arrest and punish him at once. If you hesitate to take action in this matter I shall issue orders for the destruction of every fox in the land. Any other particulars that you may wish to be informed of in reference to what has occurred, you can learn from the high priest of Yoshida.
    “Remember that not getting what you want is sometimes a wonderful stroke of luck.”

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    Their are a lot of crystals in my bud :P

    Yummy.

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    Interesting post. I'd like to read more about it.

    The concept of spiritual beings is a difficult one for me as there are so many differing explanations and theories and so many new age "inventions".

    I tend to think, most of the time, that those spiritual entities that we can identify are outer/inner reflections. In other words, what exists outside of us is reflected in an aspect of our psyche, whether good or bane, and what is within our psyche is reflected outward into a manifestation of spiritual existence. Very subjective, I know, but that's about as far as I've managed to get.

    As for ghosts, etc., I don't really know how all that would fit in to this scheme. Then there are the vast myriad of "elemental" beings conjectured by writers such as Conway and Cunningham (Selkies, Nymphs, Drakes, all those) that I tend not to have much belief in. I get argued with quite alot by the local pagans. And of course, that would lead me to always question and re-analyze my idea of the moment. If I find the archangelic forces to be of great use to me and they find more use in fairies, to each their own, I guess.

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    Until you actually deal with the ones from the lower realm it is a moot point.

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    Have always had my doubts about the spiritual world. Relatives hanging around just to pass on inanities when you are all sat around the ouija board. Still i find this a little more believable that hauntings, hanging around in some gothic drafty manor house throwing stones at gullible psychics. I DONT THINK SO! The female changing rooms and football stadiums would be full of the male deceased. Thronged. Is that ectoplasm?????<------f*ck! sorry!

    Still....
    Its been said that mankind never dies nor steps outside of eternal life. Newton (as we all know) said ......
    Hall said that we are not reborn but that our energy goes to infuse new life. That we are not a single life in a procesion of bodies but are rather a blending of energy and that memories of past lives are illusion.

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