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Thread: Are there any ways I can deal with this through the occult?

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    Default Are there any ways I can deal with this through the occult?

    You know me, I'm very open minded and will sometimes impulsively turn to anything to solve my problems. I believe that anything is possible. Okay, you don't know me, but basically I did something very freaking stupid and the shame and guilt has been ruining my life for the past five weeks. I really can't go on much longer, and was contemplating suicide. The only way I can think of correcting it would be to go back through time, but that's not going to happen. Or can it? Anyway, is there some magick assisted way I can get through this?

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    the only failure is not to learn from failure.

    write down what ails you then live in the moment, after you get over your problem read what you had written. ok this is redundant but is true.
    Man is invited to question, discover, explore,
    and manipulate the world around him and use it for his benefit.

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    Default Regaurdless . . .

    Regaurdless of what you decide to do suicide is deffinately not the right way to go. If a solution to your problem does come about in the near future or at any point really . . . not being here to fix whatever you have done would be just as bad as doing it (whatever it happens to be) in the first place. Learn from what happened, fix it if you can, if not, it was simply meant as a learning expierence. I also suggest relieving your stress via art, writing it down, finding some way to let out your extra emotional energy. And if you ever need someone to rant at or vent to my contact information is on my profile.

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    Let me post what I did... I realize this isn't really the best venue to ask for advice on this particular topic, but I will anyway... This is copy and pasted from another site I posted it on:

    No one seems to believe me, that this actually happened. I'm being completely honest. You see, I'm a sixteen year old guy (soon to be seventeen) who is into S&M. If you don't know what that is, you probably shouldn't look it up. If you do know what it is, then you know that there are subs, and there are dominants. I am a sub, and enjoy being ordered around and humiliated by women. Don't ask why, because I couldn't give you an answer. Anyhow, I go on these websites and lie about my age (saying I'm 1 and then look for dommes to boss me around. Anyhow, I was on webcam with this one sexy domme, and she told me to get my mom's underwear. I was going to do it, but my mom was in her room, so I went into my sister's room and got hers, figuring the domme wouldn't know the difference. The domme then told me to put them in my mouth, which I did. Anyway, the main point of this is: I put my sister's underwear in my mouth and truly regret it. I want to kill myself. This was five weeks ago, and I still can't get over it. What the hell should I do?

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    Hi there.
    Each and every soul has secrets and things which they feel they should not have done. This is one of those moments. Personally, I would see the garment of clothing as just a peice of cloth, nothing more, nothing less. Once washed all biological elements are removed by the cleaning chemicals (as that is their job), the only problem now is the Psychological Side. I am no therapist, but have councelled a lot of friends through very traumatic times (some of them being suicide attempts). Putting a peice of cloth in your mouth is not worth killing yourself over. If it makes you feel better, burn the clothing or just get rid of it. So you know your sister will never wear that again, then from there, put it out of your mind or at least, try to get on with life and not worry about it. There is also what Zero mentioned, but I would personally burn the paper afterwards, it would not be wise to leave that lying around anywhere.

    My basic point is, that it was a peice of cloth you put in your mouth. Your a young man, you will do a few things worse in your life (probably :P ) and you have a lot of experience to gain.

    Take care.

    Deacan

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    there is a few things I have done in my past that was embarrassing, and/or stupid. Now I just kind of laugh at it. Its all part of living.

    it was just underwear made of cloth no worries, I would say don't return them and burn them and with it your idea of who owned them. before your sis owned them they were in a store. would you have such regret if it was new?
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    The occult isn't a magick fixer upper.

    Also, maybe next time you will think before degrading yourself in a way that does not give you sexual pleasure.
    NEVER do something you are not comfortable with in a sub/dom situation. There are safewords for that reason. Even if it isn't pain related, a safe word is there for when your boundries have been crossed. Use it.

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    If it is really bothering you to the point of suicide, you don't need a spell. Using the Occult, IMO, should be a last resort as you are manipulating energies that can easily become out of your control in the long run.
    Rather, you should seek therapy. Really, it was just a peice of clothing, and not worth getting that worked up over. Shame and doubt are normal parts of life. We all do things we regret and wish we wouldn't have. The best thing to do is to first know what caused your turmoil (which you seem to know), figure out what lead you to doing this, learn from the experience, and not put yourself into a similiar situation in the first place.
    I really can't say for sure without asking for more detail, but it seems you put alot of thought into what the undergarments symbolize. I'm still working on my Psych degree, but I'd advise you to put more thought into what you are doing before you do. I would also advise that you seek a therapist, because suicide thoughts are not good. It may seem embarasing to tell a therapist about your situation, but it is completely confidential, and no one else will ever find out. And I can promise you, any therapist you might talk to has heard far more worse than that.
    Also, sexual regrets are another thing we have all had. Some people have a bad first time, sometimes with someone they wish they hadn't, it can be experimental homosexual sex, sex with a sibling, or even (consencual) sex with a child. Putting a pair of panties in your mouth really won't seem that odd.

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    Before engaging in any occult practice one should always have a thorough psychological evaluation. Speaking as a D I would not engage in any activity with someone who had not had a complete psychological work up and this is why. Both magic and D/s practices tend to reach down deep inside the psyche and pull up whatever is there good or bad. So honestly if you tried to fix it with magic I think you would make things worse, much, much worse. If you feel like you're going to hurt yourself you need to go talk to a professional and you need to be honest. If you fudge around this issue then you get nothing out of therapy and aren't suited for the occult anyway since this world requires honesty with oneself.

    Speaking both as an occultist and a D it sounds like you haven't fully explored the motivations behind your needs. You definitely need to figure that out before you proceed any further down the paths you've chosen to walk. I'm very particular about my s for these reasons. People become curious about the lifestyle and want to try it without considering the repercussions. I'm not saying this is you, although honestly you're very young so you aren't even 100% sure what you want yet, but if this is the lifestyle you want to pursue, both the occult and the D/s, then you need to drop whatever baggage is causing you to feel this way. Humiliation play is about pushing your sub's boundaries and making them do things they wouldn't so they feel more free. Obviously this is not the case here, you hit a very specific psychological boundary there that needs to be addressed. See a therapist, it doesn't mean you're crazy, it just means you want to get a mental check up.

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    Putting your sister's underwear in your mouth is something you'll laugh about when you're older.

    The shame and embarrassment you feel right now is temporary.

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