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Thread: Understanding The Dark Brothers

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    I heard somebody say that Diabolism had to do with doing exactly the opposite of what christianity says. But in the dictionary that is not the definition of the word, so I'll take that as just a personal interpretation by one person.

    What your OP describes sounds like an inversion of all human values, but then it is still a value and from a human's mind, it's just inside-out.

    Going against all values and happiness can help you to become free if you do it right, because you may be able to penetrate and get passed what controls most people's lives absolutely. This does not require that you do bad things to other people, it can just be like asceticism. 'Buddha' went through this for a certain amount of time, denying himself comfort, food and pleasures, etc. I believe it was a good exercise of self-control and self-mastery but he knew it was not a true salvation for himself.

    If we go back to the scene of the 'garden of eden', 'satan' basically was saying put your own interests first and put 'God' second. This kind of idea is allot like ... humanitarian-hedonism?? Which is allot different than your OP.

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    I am a Satanist and I don't see any relevance to Satanism in your post. But that's just me.
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    i have some spells on this subject.

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    Satan is a personification of the Judaic word al-satan (who borrowed it from the Persians' Shaiten) meaning adversary. The word is used more as a descriptive noun or pronoun. A fallen tree preventing a husband from getting to his injured wife would be considered a tree of shaiten, more or less.
    Shaiten did not become Satan until much later where Jewish sects / tribes such as the Essenes began referring to anyone not an Essene as a Shaiten. Still further the Roman Christian church decided it was time to personify shaiten into Satan and have Him become the scapegoat for all evil in the Christian world.

    There is no Satan

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    So you view Satanism as chaos then?
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    'Satan' and the mythos associated with 'Satan' are Sinister Strategies required to purge a Satanists minds and lives of the Nazarene Ethos and paradigm, to liberate the Satanists from the Magian hold that has gripped a vast portion of humanity. This hold that prevents us from Progressing humanity forward.

    Yet to lose oneself in the mythos and strategy, to believe in the existence of an actual being known as Satan, is counterproductive because not only is this Satan a mythic being of the Nazarene Matrix itself, but it is also reactionary.

    Those of the Dark Tradition with Insight, perceive that Satan is merely a descriptive term for a more Esoteric phenomena - the Acausal, or Force of Chaos, that is the center and fundamental substance of the Cosmos.

    'Satan is comprehended on many levels - Esoteric and Exoteric. on one level, 'Satan' is the mythos of the Nazarene Paradigm used for sinister reasons; on another level, 'Satan' represents Nature in all its forms - primal, cosmic, earthly, animal, and human nature; and on a more Esoteric level, 'Satan' is the very Acausal Force we are presencing to manifest change and Progression.
    "I, and others like me, are the darkness which is necessary and without which evolution and knowledge are impossible. I am my own opposite, and yet beyond both. This is not a riddle, but a statement of Mastery, and one which, alas, so few have the ability to understand." -- Anton Long, Order of Nine Angles.

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    Dean is making an antinomian statement. I see nothing wrong with this. In fact I like it. It seems to be from his stream of consciousness. He might have tapped into something here. This should be encouraged. Dean let the criticism drive you further. Don't apologize for this keep going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dean Plejaren View Post
    Again you can claim being a satanist is any number of purposes. Because at this depth of it it's not on the level where it's limited to something anymore.
    As far as i have thought with where I am at with things now, earth is somewhat of a moon system of the rest of the universe, a large male space insect that died, and there are Higher powers and a next life, but that still makes earth some sort of hell, as nothing here makes any sense or works in an appropriate way, although it can appear perfect to those who have no knowledge of what can happen to a person in life or how imperfect it all really is. part of how I feel about satanism, is that justice will never be served on earth and some people have no reason to exist for their crimes against others, and the hate for them to go to a deeper hell. I pretty much agree with everything you said originally in the first post, I have the same feelings.

    I am making a spiritual/esoteric order based on my theory of the universe, but it is earth centered and since the earth was a living thing we should take care of it. I feel the role of black magic in that, and basic things should be done in it before this happens with the black magic, should be to heal it as a living being before directing energy. it only makes sense that way.

    another aspect of satanism as applied to the material world is the quandry of messed up paradigms in science destroying everything about everything we do as a species, and also given the nature of the localization of research, as what is made in a science lab only exists where it is made, and needs to be manufactured and distributed to each person, where all products come from.
    J. Edgar Hoover himself once said in his book "masters of deciet" that communists are just violent socialists, and his job was to protect america from violence. I still don't see how, even after hitler created "backwards" national socialism that people would still never figure out to be nice to each other on earth, a place of microorganisms. eewww!
    I have seen a thousand thousand civilizations rise and fall upon the Mother of All Things. As pipes play, echoing off the mountains and across the Ocean, until it fades at the edge of time, the end of All... - book of the gate called pan

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    As far as i have thought with where I am at with things now, earth is somewhat of a moon system of the rest of the universe, a large male space insect that died, and there are Higher powers and a next life, but that still makes earth some sort of hell, as nothing here makes any sense or works in an appropriate way,
    I consider the earth and life on it as shells.
    There is an insectoid presence, but it's not the main factor;
    Most of us are zombies eating eachother and being stupid.

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