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    Default Wand or staff?

    Hello everyone. I would like to do my own wand. But when I was looking on the internet. I found wands and staffs.

    Pardon my ignorance but what is the difference? I know a staff is longer, but can it be used for magical workings as well? Is it used for different workings? im sooo confused. Thank you

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    either is a divination tool has no real power. Divination tools are used to focus energys if you feel more comfortable using a divination tool that is up to you personally and what divination tool you use.
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    Some Chinese magick uses a staff, along with a sword, which basically assumes the role of athame and wand. Whatever works.

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    the wand and staff is an extension of ones will oh mighty is he who can use the wand though, the staff may help you in walking and perhaps in a fight though.

    basically the same thing that shaolin said.
    Man is invited to question, discover, explore,
    and manipulate the world around him and use it for his benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broomhilda View Post
    either is a divination tool has no real power. Divination tools are used to focus energys if you feel more comfortable using a divination tool that is up to you personally and what divination tool you use.
    Divination tool?

    How do you divine with a wand or a staff? Are you refering to methods like dowsing?

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    there are hundreds of tools and hundreds of different types of divination and what it can be used for.
    Divination for some people is like a extention of there being and some people cannot cast or use magics without it.
    They can be anything from chicken bones and mirrors to Wands and Tarot and Staffs. There many many different things that can be used. I personally collect some items like cauldrons and athema's and tarots and runes and the family crystal ball.
    I honestly believe we dont need em but eh" whatever floats your boat.
    But yes Wands and Staffs would be divination tools and I dont mean to go find water with LOL.
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    Thanks for all your replies

    I understand now. I love all of you and feel i learn a bit more everyday from this forum.
    Im going to make a wand and im going to engrave some chinese writing in it, as my greatgrandad was chinese, and i feel very close to his spirit somehow. It makes me feel peaceful and relaxed when i think about him.

    Regarding channeling magic through a sex toy... that would probably be cool to make sigils!

    Also, funny you should mention finding water with it as i was talking to a friend of mine who told me some people use willow rods (or something of the sort) to find water!

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    Quote Originally Posted by volvic07 View Post
    Main difference: aesthetic

    Frankly, you could channel magic through a pen, a baguette, or a sex toy, if you felt so inclined.

    Essentially, either one is used to channel, focus, and direct energy. They have more uses, of course, but you could probably compile a small book on them.

    You may also find it useful for your 'magical persona' i.e. making you get your head into the right 'headspace' to do stuff successfully. If your image of what you need (for youself) includes a wand rather than a staff, use it.
    Well, personally, I don't think I would use a sex toy as a wand. I feel THAT would be highly disrepectful to the God and the Goddess. Not to mention rather gross, but, to each his own.

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    I truly appreciate your input, Iza. I know you are experienced and wise words are worth a million to me.
    I read and know its more than just a divination tool in another tread about wands here in OF.

    I would like to make one rather than buying one because its more personal, and i can call it my own. Im not experienced at all, and ive done a few things only. I tried doing a gnostic pentagram ritual before (It was my first time) but i feel it would have been more magical to have used a wand to draw the pentagrams instead of my finger. I dont know what is the best way or tool, but im looking forward to learn more from you all.

    I think the sex toy thing was funny and i know nothing about tools, but i agree its very disrespectful.

    Thank you

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    A tool is simply that, a tool. A hammer is also a tool, but it's up to the person using it to swing it. They are ways of helping to focus the mind, energy, Will and intent of the practitioner, I agree with Iza and Broomhilda that they really aren't necessary, but can be very helpful if and when one wants to use them. It's the same principle regarding any other area of occult or esoteric field such as divination: I'll usually just "know", but I will use the I Ching, for example, as a means of going deeper from time to time. Or I'll sometimes do things with talismans (which are also tools), and use a sword consecrated to the Immortal Lu Dongbin, as it's sometimes easier to "focus" on him when using a sword that represents his. But we are the ones that do the actual work, the tools are there to make that work easier.

    Quote Originally Posted by chickenrice View Post

    I understand now. I love all of you and feel i learn a bit more everyday from this forum.
    Im going to make a wand and im going to engrave some chinese writing in it, as my greatgrandad was chinese, and i feel very close to his spirit somehow. It makes me feel peaceful and relaxed when i think about him.
    I think that is a great way to go about it, as it will definitely have more meaning and a personal connection to you. Do you know where your great granddad was from, or where his ancestral lineage/home is located? There are a number of Chinese characters and seals that you could potentially use to not only strengthen your personal connection in this respect, but also help your magickal workings by linking back to some of these ancestral areas.

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