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    Default Do you think Satanism is just reverse Christianity?

    To me, the thought is absurd!! Demons were Gods of their own accord and existed way before the Christian religion started. Whether you believe it is just reversed or not, post your thoughts about the subject? I'm still kind of new here and I want to get to know the members more

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    Demons are not gods, gods are beings with infinite power over a certain aspect of the system, demons are not they may be attributed to certain things but are not gods of that, demons are fallen angels from heaven, ask one and maybe itll tell you the truth. fallen angels fell during one of the rebellions. and most satanists dont nessacarily worship satan but use him as a "example" christianity is based on the teachings of christ, but has been diluted and changed over time. christianity and satanism is very different

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    I do not believe in God nor in Satan so to me it is futile in it's enormity. When you think about it everything is reversed.

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    Demons can have different definitions amongst different people. Thye more modernized definition of a demon is a lesser spirit or god, or a devil in Christian mythology, as you have described. But the Latin and Greek word "Demon" means divine intelligence repleted with wisdom. Divine coming from divus which means God, Hence demons are their own Gods. But opinions differ, this is my first post and open for discussion. Thank you for your take on the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goth_Queen View Post
    Demons can have different definitions amongst different people. Thye more modernized definition of a demon is a lesser spirit or god, or a devil in Christian mythology, as you have described. But the Latin and Greek word "Demon" means divine intelligence repleted with wisdom. Divine coming from divus which means God, Hence demons are their own Gods. But opinions differ, this is my first post and open for discussion. Thank you for your take on the subject.
    Actually the word you're looking for is "daimon" not demon.

    Humans create their own gods. So if you want Satanism to be reversed Christianity, it will be. Though to be fair reversed Judaism makes more sense. Satan was originally an Old Testament fella.

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    Can the Devil be a bringer of good luck? Yes, indeed, according to old European traditions. This devil -- known variously as Old Nick, Old Scratch, Old Split-Foot, and Der Teufel -- did not begin his career as the "Satan" (adversary) of Christianity and Judaism or the "Prince of Darkness" and "fallen angel" popularized by John Milton in his epic poem "Paradise Lost" (1667 - 1674).

    This old Devil was a spirit of untamed nature who loved music and in many ways resembled the half-human Greek god Pan. Like the West African deities Ellegua and Legba, he could be met with at a crossroads , where he would make pacts -- but unlike these deities, he was described in folktales an unpredictable ally, and a rather dim-witted foe who was easily and humourously outwitted. Coincidentally, he also resembled the Guatemalan crossroads deity Maximon, known as San Simon, for he took a special interest in the affairs of drunkards and gamblers.

    The word "Devil" itself means "Little God"!LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Dunsany View Post
    I do not believe in God nor in Satan so to me it is futile in it's enormity. When you think about it everything is reversed.
    If I may ask a vexing question. If you do not believe in god or Satan then what is being said here that demons are not as what people made them out to be. But like anything energy. I think we all know spirits are made up of energy both negative and positive. If one does not believe in god or Satan then what is the purpose in believing angels and demons? There pretty much from the same category only a lower rank of sorts compared to that of a deity.

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    I do not believe in the Christian God or Satan that is depicted in the bible. I do believe in a divine higher power that is the force in the Universe that we as a collective whole created. Satan to me is a name that was made up to keep the masses in line. Demons I believe just the lower part of us that we have created. Angels to me were always here, and some where some how they made themselves known throughout the thoughts of humans. The Angels to me are not under a deity they are here on their own, as I said in our collective consciousness we created them as all were created. This may sound arrogant but it is not meant to be. It is just my beliefs, I can not speak for anyone else.
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    Goth Queen, I too use the simple spelling of "Demon" to refer to any extra-human, but sub-divine spirit. No reason to pick at nits here; the spelling that denotes evil spirits among the Abrahamics is a result of a perspective on the very same concept referenced by the Greco/Latin spellings of the word. Given that Abrahamic believers have rendered all other gods as mere evil spirits since the Jewish genesis, it's no stretch that they would adopt the concept and name of a race of demi-gods, but redefine it according to their worldview. The current difference between demon and daemon/daimon is akin to that of magic and magick - some add the k to distinguish between sorcery and stage chicanery, but magic is equally valid a term to refer to the black arts.

    That aside, and to the point of the thread, I believe that Satanism is reverse Christianity for almost everybody, at least at the beginning of their path. To say that it's reverse Judaism isn't quite accurate. Christianity is the first to make much ado about Satan. Jews have never much cared for or against the figure, given that the Jews have always viewed Satan as the equivalent of Wonka's Slugworth. The Christians gave Satan a new life as archfiend and elevated him to a high seat in the heavens as God's greatest enemy. Most Satanists are from a Christian background, and it is this background against which we first rebel.

    It could be argued that any Satanic branch is reverse Christianity. The LaVeyans say this of any non-LaVeyan Satanism, because they'd rather not credit the validity of a Satanism independent of the CoS. But it could be argued that theirs is a true reverse Christianity, since the starkest contrast to belief is disbelief - so not only have they adopted the symbols that are painful to Christ, but they have also reversed belief itself into disbelief...a true reverse Christianity.

    I personally see no problem with the mudsling. As long as one's path is truly a path of its own, rather than just a rebellion, anything else is mere details. See, Satanism is at its core a religion against a religion. And as such, I can't see it as anything more than a means to an end: the first step on a path. If you are content with Satan, without attaining a knowledge of the true nature of the Entity bearing the title, then you're doing both Him and yourself a great disservice.

    As far as reverse Judaism, look no further than Ophitic Gnosticism. This is perhaps the first example of a faith that found its birth in a contrary interpretation of commonly accepted scripture. Essentially, it would be the first cult that could be seen as Satanic, though this wouldn't be a term they'd likely accept.


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    Let me also add that I myself am of a reverse-Jewish mindset, being an Ophite myself. I lend to credence to the concept of Christ whatsoever, and so my focus is exclusively Judeo in origin. I no longer consider myself properly a Satanist, and haven't for some time, although I have a great respect for and understand the necessity of Satanism.
    Last edited by Great American Desert; 03-30-2009 at 05:58 PM.

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    satanism does differant things with beliefs, the belief centers in our brains make us decide if something is good or bad and following this either way, a path of light or darkness, can be self limiting, although both ways can be liberating
    I have seen a thousand thousand civilizations rise and fall upon the Mother of All Things. As pipes play, echoing off the mountains and across the Ocean, until it fades at the edge of time, the end of All... - book of the gate called pan

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